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u/rainydays_89 The Timeline Sucks 1d ago
Future Republican congressman
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u/Anxious_Nebula5926 1d ago
Oh yeah, the Rapeublicans will welcome them with open arms. Rich white boys with assault charges are their prime recruitment targets.
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u/BjornBlodbylgje 1d ago
I see a bunch of rich kids that grew up with privilege. The real problem was always the same problem. Two-Tier Justice system.
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u/ytdaddy4fun 1d ago
Yep just rich privileged dudesâŚthe sad part is this happens multiple times every single year at just about every college in the US.
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u/Early-Sort8817 1d ago
And you rarely see as much media coverage or sensationalism as you do if it was some sort of other group
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u/gurblixdad 1d ago
Imagine graduating from an Ivy League school only to end up working as a municipal cop
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u/lullubye 1d ago
One was let go from Wells Fargo.
Winston is allegedly in the South Korean military
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u/allthegodsaregone 1d ago
Another was apparently also let go from.. what I assume is a prestigious organization.
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u/bonkydonkie 1d ago
Winston. Thats the richest name ive ever heard. Ive never even met a Winston before. Im friends with the Seans and Gabes
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u/Upset_Confection_317 1d ago
The top left is the one who started it by sending the Snapchat message
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u/murrtrip 1d ago
Can someone explain the context? So infuriating...
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u/RobotPolarbear 1d ago
They gang raped a woman at Cornell University about two years ago. It was in the news then, but the story is being rekindled right now because she is filing a civil case. The story is especially infuriating because the university punished them by having them write essays. Also, there was a group chat with 50+ men from the frat who all saw that these young men were inviting others upstairs for "free pussy" and talking about what they were doing. It was all done out in the open.
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u/felis_scipio 1d ago
My views of frats has remained unchanged since being in college a few decades ago, if someone tells me they are/were in a frat I assume theyâre a rapist.
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u/jeffwingerisgay49 1d ago
And if they're not a rapist, they're perfectly fine being friends with them and vouching for them.
Frats haze pledges so they can weed out people who will report them to campus or the authorities. None of the frat bros would be bros if they didn't pay for friendship, but they act like it's a badge of honor to be in a frat. It literally takes nothing more than money for dues and a willingness to take shit to join.
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u/murrtrip 1d ago
After reading WAY down below this has something to do with "Turning Point" I did some googling and it's something to do with the "The Cornell Fraternity Group Chat / Gang Rape Case". In case anyone else was lost...
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u/Dotcaprachiappa 1d ago
Is this like some incredibly known thing happening in the US or did OP expect us all to be mind readers..?
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u/RobotPolarbear 1d ago
Yes it is, but it happened two years ago so many people have forgotten. The story is in the news again now because there is a new civil case.
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u/whatigotinmyhandnowb 1d ago
What we are seeing here: Future supreme court justice, future tech mogul, future movie producer, future senator
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u/donut_koharski 1d ago
Who are these people?
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u/Empoleon777 1d ago
If youâve heard about the Cornell gang rape case thatâs been big news recently, these are the seven accused perpetrators.
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u/Top-Strength-2701 1d ago
Are the police actually going to arrest anyone?
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u/Huntsman077 1d ago
The DA is filing charges and itâs going to a grand jury
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u/meteoritegallery 1d ago
I'm not sure what grounds they'd be arrested on. They don't appear to have broken any laws.
https://www.npr.org/2026/09/28/nx-s1-5983480/cornell-fraternity-rape-chi-phi-case-updates).
In a nine-page statement, Tompkins County District Attorney Matthew Van Houten announced on Monday that efforts are underway to reexamine the case. Once his office determines appropriate charges, the case will be presented to a grand jury, he said. Van Houten said he has assigned a senior prosecutor, with experience in sex crimes, to start preparations.
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Van Houten acknowledged the outrage. In defending his office, he said the civil lawsuit's claims differ from the unnamed victim's sworn statement from two years ago.
"Jane Doe's sworn statement in November of 2024 did not allege that she was drugged against her will or gang raped. On the contrary, Jane Doe's statement described her participation in drug use and sexual conduct as voluntary, conscious, and consensual," he wrote. "My office obviously did not and could not have based our November 2024 decision on the allegations in a civil lawsuit that would not be filed until nearly two years later."
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Van Houten says there are similarities between Doe's original 2024 statement to police and details in the lawsuit. However, he writes: "There is no evidence in Jane Doe's statement indicating that she clearly expressed that she did not consent to the act. According to the statement, each time Jane Doe asked to stop the sexual conduct, the sexual conduct stopped."
And thus "criminal charges simply could not be sustained," Van Houten explained. "To instruct otherwise would have been to violate my prosecutorial obligations under New York State Law."
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u/crazywrangler616 1d ago
Sometimes great parents end up with monsters.
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u/SweetPrism 1d ago edited 1d ago
I was a Special Educator for almost a decade; I spent about five cumulative years exclusively with kids who have emotional/behavioral disorders. Our learning setting was an alt classroom because the kids I worked with were Level 3--they spent the most amount of time legally allowed outside of a traditional classroom setting to accommodate behavioral intervention.
All told, I probably worked with and/or knew about 100 kids with these disturbances. Guess how many of those kids had a relatively normal, functioning home? One. She was my student because she had suffered a severe TBI after running into a concrete retaining wall on her bicycle at a young age, and the TBI resulted in newly aggressive behavior.
I guess what I'm trying to say, is maybe you're right--maybe "great" parents can end up with monsters? But I have never witnessed this in the wild. My guess is (at best) these kids had well-meaning parents. Parents like those of MacKenzie Shirilla, who pacified, enabled, and gave the benefit of the doubt one too many times resulting in a child that simply never learned the skill of personal accountability. One could make the argument that this is obviously less damaging than abusive, neglectful, or ill-equipped parents, but look what happens--the kids wind up in the same place at the end.
Edit: don't dox the parents. But don't dismiss their role in making these kids, either.
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u/crazywrangler616 1d ago
I taught for 39 years, and would agree that most parents may be negligent and therefore responsible, but I donât agree that they are fair game to dox etc unless it becomes known they tried to mitigate consequences or intimidate the victim
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u/SweetPrism 1d ago
I never said anything about doxing, not at all. These kids are adults now; they're fair game. The only point I'm making is that these kids were made by their parents.
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u/jpewaqs 1d ago
The original comment was about doxxing the parents. A responder basically said don't do this, sometimes great parents end up with monsters. You then replied to this going through your background and saying in your experience the bad kids generally come from bad backgrounds. Reading the thread, your post does come across as supporting the top comment of dox the parents. I get that's not your intention and you probably were simply scrolling through and picked up on a comment to respond to. But if you read the thread down, it's what you imply.
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u/dev_vvvvv 1d ago edited 1d ago
From the description you've given, you worked with a small subset of students with behavioral/emotional disorders: students whose problems were so severe that they couldn't function and were given that special education.
Most of the kids I knew/were friends with in middle/high school who were getting into fights, drinking, doing/selling drugs, etc weren't in special education. They were with the rest of the students so you would probably never see them.
The people involved in this seem very high functioning (Ivy League students, class president, white collar jobs, etc) so you would have never seen them.
It's also unclear what you mean by "normal, functioning home". For the kids I described above, it was a lot of single mother households, no parental supervision (because mom had to work), poverty (because single parent household), and kids left to their own devices.
Would you say a single mother who did the best she could was a "great" parent? I don't know. But blaming them and trying to ruin their lives because they were put in a shitty situation (as the top comment in this chain recommended) is beyond idiotic.
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u/WatsonYurfays 1d ago
This is so rarely the case that it warrants no further consideration. These pieces of shit are pieces of shit because they were raised by pieces of shit.
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u/NOCO5900 1d ago
Careful what you wish for, you might not like what you find politically.
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u/MedusasMum 1d ago
I think rapists are born like that.
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u/Rude_Award2718 1d ago
It's much easier to get away with that behavior when you have Rich well connected parents who will protect you. Hence Donald trump.
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u/Fearless_Dog5208 1d ago
These were adults. We don't hold parents responsible unless their parents had a part in covering it up. If their parents did help in the cover up then by all means bury them to.
Cornell and the Administrators who buried it need to be held responsible as well.
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u/Rude_Award2718 1d ago
They weren't born this way. This is how they were raised. Rich kids allowed to do whatever they want because Rich parents will protect them. This is how you create the Epstein class. The simple fact that the district attorney didn't even want to investigate tells me that he was trying to cover it up. So fuck him.
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u/AvailableAdHere 1d ago
I know this isnât the place for this conversation since you seem pretty dead set. But historically making someone else responsible for anotherâs crimes usually leads to bad outcomes. For example, itâs generally not possible to inherit your parents debt, since eventually you would be responsible for your whole bloodline. In this example, where do you stop? Should we also harass the grandparents, the extended family? How far do we go to make things ârightâ?
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u/Rude_Award2718 1d ago
But what if we find out that one of the parents who's well-connected in the county, encourage the district attorney to not pursue charges against their child or we find out that a hefty donation was made to Cornell to give them a lackluster punishment? I think that will come out in the next several weeks. So knowing who the parents are is a vital piece of information.
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u/AvailableAdHere 1d ago
Sure, if we find out the parents are criminals charge em. Iâm just saying (as someone who has a fucked up family), I really donât like the idea of this transitive guilt by familial association. Mostly what youâre describing sounds like a revenge fantasy, neither of us know anything about the parents right now
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u/SwingKey3599 1d ago edited 1d ago
So what did their parents do? and since you know so much about them how much money are each of them making? How many siblings do they have? What sector do they work in?
Youâre making a shit load of assumptions just to make people angry, if you think this is clever engagement bait, you should go back to your boss and tell them that they should fire you.Â
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u/Huntsman077 1d ago
The DA is reopening the case and presenting the evidence to a grand jury. They werenât compliant
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u/Rude_Award2718 1d ago
Yes, only doing it now because the public have found out about it. That's what it takes. Corrupt political appointees doing what the rich and wealthy tell them to do until they are found out.
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u/Huntsman077 1d ago
No because it wasnât originally reported as rape⌠new evidence came to light so they proceeded to file charges based on that evidence.
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u/JediSnoopy 1d ago
No, if these young people are guilty, only they should face punishment for their crimes. Guilt by association - their parents, their parents' employers - is what totalitarian regimes do.
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u/Rude_Award2718 1d ago
When we start to find out the conversations between the families, the university and the district attorney all to cover this up in the first place then the families are fair game.
And if anyone needs a recent example of this I would look up Alex Acosta in Florida when he was a district attorney.
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u/letthetreeburn 1d ago
Bingoooo. These men were only able to do this because of the privilege afforded by said families. Burn âem.
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u/Rude_Award2718 1d ago
I don't care if they're Republican or Democrat I do care if they put pressure on the district attorney to not investigate spoiled little Jimmy for raping someone. This is how these kids get away with it and this is how they grow up to be Epstein clients.
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u/crazywrangler616 1d ago
You are absolutely correct- any parent trying to mitigate consequences does not fall within my comment that there are good parents of evil children
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u/MornGreycastle 1d ago
Yeah. Political corruption is not limited to any one party.
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u/jellowhirled 1d ago
It sounds like your encouraging people to commmit harassment. That's a crime. You do know that, right?
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u/Confident-Pepper-562 1d ago
Maybe wait for a trial? Or do you just like witch hunts?
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u/WittyTiccyDavi 1d ago
Witch hunts are just being held responsible for and facing the consequences of what you do. Or haven't you been paying attention to the POTUS speeches?
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u/AdeptIndependent6859 1d ago
Remember Duke Lacrosse. Everyone turned on those kids and we found out they were innocent. Lets give them a chance to defend themselves. Obviously throw them away if they did what they are accused of.
That being said, calling for having their parents fired from jobs? Thats too far. They are adults here. Whatever their background is wouldnt excuse this.
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u/adudefromaspot 1d ago
Different case, different circumstances. In that case, one woman made accusations against the team.
In this case, the rapists themselves admitted to it over snapchat.
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u/NuclearBroliferator 1d ago
Quick with it! That distinction is pretty important, theres no doubt they are guilty here.
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u/Gacrome 1d ago
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cornell-university-rape-allegations-chi-phi-fraternity-details/
Even if she not lying about rape, statements are all over the place even alleged that she said everything was ok to alleged rapists the next day. No way anyone gets convicted of this.
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u/adudefromaspot 1d ago
Studies of victims of rape generally do not show consistent behavior and also demonstrate that they are not in the right frame of mind. They can often say it's "ok" as a defense mechanism; especially when confronted by the rapist themselves.
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u/Alternative_Lemon175 1d ago
Nah, these dudes invited others in their group chat to join in. They were so proud of themselves they advertised "free pussy" to about 50 other people. Who are now likely witnesses.
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u/jsttlknmsht 1d ago
Did you read her statement? And I mean hers, she was asked can anyone get it and she said yeah. That K no joke.
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u/Necessary_Maize1687 1d ago
If she was on K she was not able to consent. That is still rape.
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u/Skoodge42 1d ago
You are basing that off a picture of a screen where you can't even see names or the date...
Maybe that is 100% accurate, but it is not confirmed yet and until all the evidence comes out and is verified, you are just assuming truth and accuracy
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u/ABSNegativeOne 1d ago
careful about promoting doxxing
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u/Kichenlimeaid 1d ago
They look like typical bros to me. And by that I mean, these are the same a#*holes that judge young women harshly, act entitled and think their dookie don't stink. Honestly it's tiresome how common they really are..
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u/devilishlydo 1d ago edited 1d ago
Ain't it wild how young women who get raped never seem to have promising futures of their own, but the rapists' futures are so critical to society that they must be protected until they finally grow out of raping women; assuming they ever do?
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u/AmItheonlySaneperson 1d ago
Yeah why werenât those 4 types of people in an Ivy League fraternityÂ
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u/johnyordinary 1d ago
Who the fuck are they anyway?Can someone clarify what the point of this post is implying?
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u/Lost-Volume1254 1d ago
So if we follow right wing logic. Anybody with their ethnic, social and religious background should be deported right? To protect the daughters etc etc
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u/No-Lobster-8012 1d ago
Some details and context would be nice.Â
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u/Veshaad Timendi Causa Est Nescire 1d ago
The Cornell 7. It's pretty much been all over the news and social media.
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u/FearOfABlackPotus 1d ago
Ok, some context would still be nice.
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u/MourningWallaby 1d ago
an anonymous woman has filed a suit to Cornell University for mishandling the response to these 7 men drugging and raping her for multiple hours at a frathouse event. the school did very little remedial action against these 7 and it highlighted their harsh remedial action to other students for simply protesting.
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u/MinimalMischief 1d ago
I canât wait for America to get super weird about this case and ultimately ruin any chance of justice for anyone.
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u/angusthechick 1d ago
Itâs going to be all bots and misinformation and pushing us to be at each otherâs throats just like every high profile event. Just waiting on the astrology bot posts to really rile everyone up.
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u/lakewood13 1d ago
Man so many people in this comment section need their hard drives and connections checked jfc
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u/Carbon_Sixx 1d ago
"b-buh the DA statement says it was consensual" If I sat down to talk about all the legal and methodological flaws with that document, I'd be here all day. Suffice it to say that Cornell campus police had a vested interest in covering this up so they can keep getting legacy student money, and New York's backwards laws about intoxication and consent are in direct contention with Title IX protections for sexually assaulted college students. The people demanding we use it as a primary source definitely want to undermine justice.
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u/apple__eater 1d ago
Did they do it? I would not be surprised whatsoever and they should have the book thrown at them if so.
Have they been tried and found guilty yet? No and this name and shame game is dangerous before the facts are actually known.
Itâs been a decade since the Duke Lacrosse team was FALSELY dragged exactly like this and legitimately ruined peoples lives over a FALSE accusation.
And before you accuse, I am a democrat.
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u/Brilliant_Ebb_3064 1d ago
I heard they did get the book thrown at them. They had to write essays into it and go on about their day. It took like most of the afternoon and it was a beautiful sunny day out. Isnât that punishment enough????
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u/tugaim33 1d ago
Woah there buddy! How dare you offer nuance and understanding in a Reddit comment?!
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u/Agent_Noir006 1d ago
As a woman - my initial impulse was to jump on the bandwagon. I've read the DA's statement and I'm not sure I feel so sure now after reading her sworn statements. This is double after reading many of the crazy posts above. Everyone on this sub needs to slow down and read the details of this case and reassess. This feels like a witch hunt in the making. Or maybe they're guilty - I'm not sure but we need a trial not this political witch hunt fanaticism. And why does everyone keep saying all white guys? Am I looking at a different photo than everyone else?
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u/UnusualPieceOfGum 1d ago
So is the tl;dr of this, at first she said they did not SA her, now she is saying they did?
And the text messages appear to back up the later? However, because of her initial statement, many don't find her credible?
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u/Potatoes90 1d ago
There's a lot more detail in the oriy report of how things happen and who was involved. She said no to specific acts and they listened to her. She said no to at least one specific person and that person didn't have sexual contact with her. When she said she was done it stopped. She voluntarily took all the drugs and alcohol involved and she said she was never incapacitated or incapable of making her own decisions. New York state law allows for concent to be given while under the influence as long as you were aware of the intoxicants you ingested and consented to them, meaning she was legally capable of giving concent. She texted one of the men a few days after and discussed how things got out of hand and they should get together again with less drugs and less participants.
The text messages in the snap chat also don't suggest rape. They suggest lewd acts being performed with multiple men in the fraternity house, but nothing suggests it was non consensual.
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u/UnusualPieceOfGum 1d ago
Thanks for the additional info, do you a source for the oriy report and text messages?
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u/Potatoes90 1d ago
Somehow every news organization says they have the transcript but nobody has released it. They also jump around the statement and link it to the 2026 lawsuit rather than just laying out what the original complaint said. I'm not gonna dig anymore, but here is an article from CNN about it. They say that she said the later parts of the encounter felt like it was rape, which I had not heard before. I don't have anything on the texts later, so take that with a grain of salt, but that's more due to me not wanting to find it than it not being available.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/30/us/key-questions-cornell-sexual-assault-investigation
Also, look up sunny hostin talking about it on the view. In a very unexpected take she very briefly details why no prosecutor would have brought charges in this case based on 2024 info. I'm apparently too much of a ludite to find it and link it here, but I trust you're better at this than I am and will be able to find it.
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u/Important_Mud_6700 1d ago
Apparently in New York state if she herself willingly became intoxicated, they cannot charge the guys with rape even if they did sexually assault her. Most states have gotten rid of that loophole, but New York still has it
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u/Skoodge42 1d ago
That is not entirely accurate. Her consent is still needed. Your phrasing makes it sound like she said no and was still forced, but that isn't what happened.
If she was sexually assaulted, that would still be illegal . By her own admission they stopped and listened when she said no, took the drugs voluntarily, and wanted to have the sexual encounters she had
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u/TheTampoffs 1d ago
Consent is fluid. You can consent to having a drunk threeaome but when youâre passed out disassociating on ketamine and getting gang banged by multiple frat boys it kind of changes things no?? Do you not agree that consent is fluid?
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u/NoWomanNoTriforce 1d ago
Many people on here are too young to remember the Duke Lacrosse team having their lives ruined for what ended up being a completely fabricated account.
You are right in that consent is fluid, and I 100% believe an investigation needs to be done. And one not being done when this actually happened is negligence from local law enforcement and Cornell.
But I will never support assuming that accused people are actually guilty.
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u/failedaspotcheck 1d ago
Her initial statement stated that she was repeatedly pressed into taking more drugs and performing more sex with more men while she says "no" numerous times throughout the encounter. She also explicitly states that there were parts of the sex that she had no memory of.
That's rape. People are just as mad at Cornell and the DA as the seven men in the lawsuit.
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u/2021isevenworse 1d ago
I think people need to slow down and make sure that these are really the guys who were involved.
Just because someone posts a name and photo, doesn't mean they're actually involved.
Too many lives ruined by vigilante internet justice that falsely accused people who had no connection.
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u/mrpyrotec89 1d ago
Yeah same. Had pitchforks out until I read the old police testimony. Which then Cornell's response and punishment to the 7 and Frat makes sense.
Also she's suing for money, which you always embellish the case for a settlement. So her civil suit could be over-exggaurated on purpose.
So yeah, punlic opinion could be super off on this like it was for the duke lacrosse team
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u/TimelyWrongdoer4315 1d ago
Imagine being raped and people are using that to own imaginary arguments in their head.
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u/BatUnlikely4347 1d ago
Were they the only 7 members of this frat?Â
Were there a bunch of other dudes who knew what was happening in the basement and didnt immediately call the cops before starting to beat  the shit out of his "brothers?"
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u/jeffwingerisgay49 1d ago
There was a group chat of 57 of them where they were bragging about 'free pussy upstairs' and none of them said anything
Frats are a cancer to society and hazing rituals are just to weed out who will tell on them for their raping.
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u/Bro13847 1d ago
Looks like a bunch of white dudes
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u/Joshfumanchu 1d ago
So, now white is just anyone pale? WTF?
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u/seppohund 1d ago
It always has been. The US is the only country with this backwards idea of colorism
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u/CuriosityCheck2024 1d ago
"Africa starts in the Pyrenees" was a saying in the days of British Hegemony. The Irish weren't considered "White" until they became convenient pawns.
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u/Downtherabbithole-14 1d ago
they are not all white. I see white, mixed black (maybe hispanic?), and asian. But what is one thing they all have in common? They are male. And this is why women will pick the bear.
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u/Puzzled_Score_7534 1d ago
Looks like our next republican congressman, governor, president, or Supreme Court judge is there
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u/FormalKind7 1d ago
I don't have any context. Who are these people? Why do we care? and How do I know they aren't part of any of the above groups and why does that matter?
I assume they were all caught in some sort of scandal but the post gives no context.
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u/maltam 1d ago
The 7 Cornell students that (allegedly) gang graped an unconscious girl at a frat house in 2024, while also letting the 57 person group chat know there is "free pussy" available in the room she was being assaulted.
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u/Far_Eye6555 1d ago edited 1d ago
Still plenty of weirdos excusing the men in this case. It was not consensual sex. She consented to hooking up with one man. Not 7. You guys are excusing rape
You guys are excusing rape. You disgust me.
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u/Bella_Peachyy 1d ago
No, I think they are referring to her original statement 2 years ago. She said that she consented to everything including drug use. But now she is changing that statement, hence the doubt. Why would she change her mind 2 years later.
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u/Far_Eye6555 1d ago
Iâve literally read her statement made about the night of the incident. She clearly states she said to Man 1 âwhat happened to it just being us?â Then her next statement after that is she doesnât remember how she ended up in a second threesome with Man 1 and 4. You didnât even read her statement did you
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u/Yeknomevol 1d ago
The post is making a lot assumptions about what those look like; really any of them could one of those.
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u/Carbon_Sixx 1d ago
The foremost enemy of humankind is and always has been the rich and powerful. They do nothing but take from us.
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u/Old-Set78 1d ago
Rape should never have a statute of limitations. And if convicted the first offense for raping an adult should have physical removal of the testicles, a second offense the legal punishment should be cutting off the penis. Pedophiles should get the death penalty for a conviction
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u/butwhywedothis 1d ago
And now they are eligible to join Rep(edo)ublican party.