I always say, "ignorance is a special kind of stupid". It's a choice to continue to regurgitate propaganda without research and coming to your own conclusions. Education doesn't stop after high school folks
One major problem is that education may not be happening in schools. They may be able to regurgitate facts short term but critical thinking does not sink in.
As is being pointed out we actually live in a socialist country if you're rich and wealthy because the government will ensure your wealth will be maintained. The rest of us have to suffer under that oligarchy. We are basically Russia at this point.
Yeah my parents are maga boomers who are functionally illiterate. I grew up with them, so Iām not exaggerating. Iām 41 and have never seen them read anything.
And this all sucks bc they were never political, which I think was on a large part bc they canāt read and both never finished high school. For example, my dad never got poisoned by Rush Limbaugh back in the day. So I grew up in a fairly moderate home. No racism (white family), no politics. Iāll give them props for at least knowing education was important. They drilled that into us 5 kids, and Iām the only one who graduated college.
Then boom. My dad retired, stared spending every waking second online, got indoctrinated by Russian bots, and now theyāre maga till death. Then the rest of the family followed suit.
I do you love them, but I couldnāt take it anymore and went no contact this year. The crazy conspiracies and blatant mental gymnastics in the face of factual evidence just became too much, to the point where it started to physically hurt listening to their nonsense. So I blocked my entire family and am feeling sad but at least with no pain.
Edit: one more point. The breaking point for me was the total disregard for reality and consequences. Iād prove some nonsense wrong to my dad, and heād either scoff āwell thatās your opinionā or worse, heād avoid admitting heās wrong and say āitās all just entertainment for meā.
The average MAGA individual could barely get their high school diploma. If they even finished school at all. Or they are rich scumbags who benefit from this horrendous administration.
Our voter testing was not a "political science" test, they were not fair and were meant to keep specific people from voting at all.
The solution isn't bringing back Jim Crow garbage, it's actually meaningfully educating people. Tougher to pull off, less likely to backfire when those people have their hands on the wheel
This would disenfranchise so many people you donāt intend to disenfranchise. If we want people to vote, if want to have a real functioning democracy, disenfranchisement is not the solution. Democracy and disenfranchisement are not compatible.
The problem is evil men use good systems to do incredible evil beyond anything theyād be capable of doing without those good systems. A system like this that restricts voting, no mater how well intentioned, will be used by bad people to revoke voting rights from good people. We donāt need a system that dictates who can vote and who canāt, we need a voting system that gives more weight to people who do understand politics. Like ranked choice voting systems, something that gives people who take the time to educate themselves more options than those who just vote based on feelings or party affiliation. At least with a system like that, even if we donāt get the candidate we personally want, we can still end up with a good candidate that we are ok with getting elected.
I mean the majority of maga are boomers and zoomers. The education window has closed for one of those groups. I donāt think a refresher PSA prior to voting is the worst idea though
I think there should be an entire week or two in high school and college government classes before an election. Just presenting major candidates and issues (while attempting to be as unbiased as possible).
Kids apathetic to voting will likely become adults apathetic to voting if we let them.
The deconstruction of your statement is just wild.
If you actually were versed in poli-sci, meaning you knew enough political theory to understand voter suppression, you absolutely would not say what you said.
But you did, so you must not understand it.
Which means that your opinion is, basically, that you think the government should legally disenfranchise YOU specifically; instead of, ya'know, just choosing not to vote because you're too irresponsible to form an intelligible opinion on the issue. And you think this is some sort of gotcha hot take.
Itās because they were all grooming kids. Their Machiavelli style new life is projecting Christian morals and protecting kids but they never comprehended the Bible or even raised their own children. They promoted being a f up like themselves but the only reason they made it through life is walking on the heads of others while being unapologetically unappreciative of their relatively easy life. Their parents were military brats that dodged the Vietnam drafts by being āhippiesā but the minute the us was saving Vietnamese allies by giving them refugee status they became xenophobic.
Who would want them to reject anti-communists? Communists would want them to reject anti-communist people.
Truer words will never be written! I waste far too much time telling these poor people they have no idea what theyāre protesting. The certainty of stupidity is an amazing thing.
i feel like saying to americans the whole world hates you and thinks you're a joke is pointless, because people that are literate already know this, and maga supporters are too dumb to understand why
Except nothing the Trump administration has done has been fascist. Everything has been accordance with existing law, and in fact is comparable to things previous Democratic presidents have done. Trump has not set up as a dictator and has followed every law even when he's been challenged in court. Reality check you can't challenge a fascist dictator in court. as far as communism goes. Frankly, I'd rather just keep what I earn. Taxes are already too high, me personally, I'd be in favor of cutting just about every government-funded social service. But that's just my personal preference.Ā
There's an episode of MASH where two investigators are agree on if Major Burns is a communist or fascist. Bet no one would think that would be real life decades later...
Yeahā¦.I donāt think thereās a big giant collective group of people thatās backing Trump right now. Thereās undoubtedly still a small, yet vocal group of sycophants, but it pales in comparison to the broad appeal and peak 8-10 years ago.
If there was ever a perfect definition for the phrase ābeating a dead horseā, this would certainly be itā¦.
the problem is anyone can see the other as being fascist. anyone can look at their opponent and find fault with words that arent allowed or removing political opponents
anytime the opposition is rendered silent for any reason...one could call fascism.
with socialism we have a very popular old book, Atlas Shrugged.
long story short, when the people who hold the world up tire of their inventions and labor being exploited for lazy folk who just wish to game the system and leave to create thier own society, youd be left with people who dont know how or want to do anything
i see the flaws in both of this thinking but at its base level...these ideas easily appeal to morons and while you can convince me against them....it wont be so ez with them
I think it would be beneficial for everyone to take a step back and read a book not written to sensationalize history, but those seeking to capture it accurately.
Books like "Talking to Strangers" help you realize we are being walked by our DNA and the Corporations that have exploited long evolved traits.
There are groups that prefer to defer their judgment and freedom to government and businesses they think are smarter than them.
In doing so they become puppets to the corporations that shape their reality through digitized modern marketing techniques.
We're all susceptible.
One way to wake up is to disconnect from media for 30+ days. To read books with others out-loud (if you have ADHD/ADD).
Focus on ingesting quality ingredients, learn to love water and walking.
Capitalism and Religion got us. Took the wheel long ago and left humans as fleshy emotional nodes that capitalism loves because we're easy to push.
We are being played by the family that invented the lightbulb. These failed forward incest networks that now dictate the future and will likely survive to rebuild the next new market once their actions wipe this version out.
Conversely, left wingers will usher in socialism (which leads to communism) in order to avoid fascism, because they donāt know the definition of either term.š¤·š»āāļø
This is an oversimplification bell curve. but its to demonstrate how political affiliation can be distributed. the main problem with this is where people "think" they are on the spectrum, and where they actually are.
Most people on the far left or far right will probably say they are more in the middle and everyone else is extremist.
seldom do actual extremist think they are extremist, but will accuse everyone left or right of them as extremist.
Dictatorships and authoritarian governments always reside at the extreme ends, it's the only way they can maintain themselves in power. extremist on both sides will do everything they can to "pull" subjects from the middle. they typically attack those with "centrist" views more than extremist opposite of them, which makes sense since this is the group that has more appeal and is a threat that can pull people away from the edges. freedom, human rights, and peace can only coexist in about 60% area of that curve. 30+/- from the center.
This is just my opinion of what I have observed in society. .
I mean that is exactly what germany did inbetween ww1 and ww2, germans watched the bolshivist revolution take place in russia and saw the outcome of corruption and starvation in their fall to communism, a grass roots campaign to adopt socialism such as the sparticus league took hold in germany The response to their progress near the end of the social discord was a significant battle in berlin as the government killed citizens alligned with the socialist movement for control. Resulting in the enviroment for the reich to take power
MAGA believes the world is 6,000 years old and condoning and encouraging slavery is "God's word" and "useful for teaching" because it is in the Bible. You shouldn't listen to a word they say. #VOTEBLUE
Whether democrat or gop it's tough to find a politician that wants a non interventionist foreign policy, elimination of the income tax and addressing currency erosion which causes inflation.
Whatās fascist about anything nowā¦I remember being mandated to buy health insurance during Obamaā¦.and you couldnāt travel without a poke during Bidenā¦so where is trumps fascism?
Oh right, the guy in the brick suit who was so confident Trump would build a wall that Mexico would pay for. Hopefully he is still around and never knows a moment of peace.
Trump loves the uneducated and hates the educated. He has literally said both. Unfortunately his followers are too ignorant to understand heās insulting them.
Vote for whoever you want, itās a uniparty and no one will get anything from either party. They want all of us poor whether thatās someone with a R or a D behind their name.
Why is it that so many supporters of the president dress so gawdawful, garish clothes. It gives the impression that theyāre shouting and ready to get up in your face if you disagree.
Fascism: an ultranationalist authoritarian ideology that sees the world through the lens of a ruthless zero-sum competition between different ethnic groups/cultures. It advocates for using state violence to protect/enforce the social order and cultural identity of the nation, and the violent punishment of foreign or "degenerate" people who are seen as a threat to the national identity and national unity. Fascism posits that liberal values such as pluralism, democracy and freedom are naive and will make the nation weak and vulnerable. It idolizes the uniformity and violent capabilities of traditional military structure and holds this up as a model for society as a whole to emulate.
Socialism: a broad term for a system where resources and the means of production are collectively controlled and distributed by the state.
in California, they donāt all look white. they look like Spanish speakers doing advertiasements for republicans, claiming to be poor farmers, who probably got bailed out or nearly deported by this administration. theyre doing commercials throwing around the word socialism and probably dont know what it means or the difference. theyāre complaining about non republican candidates who had nothing to do with their gas prices going higher.
but i guess theyāre paying them enough for those commercials to make it worth it. someone somewhere is buying it that someone besides the greedy fly is responsible.
Those Antifa goons will suppress your thoughts and beat what they call fascism right out of you! You shall bow down to their vision of superiority or suffer the social and economic consequences. For they are morally and ethically superior and the smooth brained mouth breathers deserve whatever violence comes their way.
Democratically elected system where the state owns companies, land, factories, farms, real estate etc., and the markets arenāt free but prices are dictated by the government. You own personal property, car, appliances etc. and to an extent your apartment but itās usually a permanent lease from the government.
This state has never existed. Each socialist state has never been democratic as each one has been a byproduct of an attempt at communism.
True socialism cannot exist because 1. It will be impoverished, like china before Deng Xiaoping, 2. Because it would lose the following election. The second Poland was allowed to vote the communists (socialists) lost 99-1.
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u/joequ827 1d ago
I always think of the Forrest Gump quote āStupid is as stupid does.ā Ignorance in this country is staggering.