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Serious question, even if he hadn’t fallen into that little crevice, how was he supposed to have turned around and make his way back to the top? Like logistically, this seems like an impossible feat for the average person, unless they happen to be very petite and flexible.
That last drop he is stuck in was damp/slick apparently and he slid over the edge, gravity did the rest over time as his ability to resist dropped away. Once in there, no way to reposition and back out. The tunnel was just too narrow to manoeuvre properly through, let alone fit any substantial rescue gear. Why he decided to continue once it became obvious it was narrowing AND descending is beyond my comprehension.
I believe his corpse is still there.
it is. If I'm not wrong they tried to rescue him, his brother (?) almost died in the process of doing that, they eventually decided to call it and then they sealed the entrance with concrete because they literally couldn't even pull the dead body out.
They tried for like 18 hours to get him. It was just too impossible to do a rescue in such a tiny tunnel. They set up pulleys and winches but the angle was no good and he was just too stuck. After like 18 hours being upside down finally killed him. For most of the time he was actively talking to friends and rescuers.
The cave had lots of small, narrow passages, and he took the wrong turn. He was going for "The Aorta crawl", and kept thinking that if he just pushed on a little further, the passage would soon open up a little.
Ive heard the story before but I've never seen the full map of this cave. It makes it so much worse. Never in eternity would I ever go in something like this
He kept going because he thought he knew where he was and there was a turn around ahead. He was in a different part of the cave than he thought he was - he took a wrong turn and believed he was in a part of the cave that was well known and frequently traveled, where you have to crawl through a very tight space, but it opens up on the other side so you can turn around and get back. Instead, he was in a dead end beyond the edge of of the known maps.
Red circle is where he thought he was, purple circle is where he actually was:
From what I remember he was looking for a specific passageway but ended up going into an unmapped part of the cave without realizing, so he just kept pushing assuming he’d reach his destination (I don’t know the specifics but it could have opened into a chamber or widened out). Instead he got wedged and couldnt back out.
This just seems like a miserable sort of thrill. There are other potentially hazardous activities — wing suits, sky diving, base jumping, bungee jumping, mountain climbing, scuba diving, whitewater rafting — where I can at least see the appeal of the activity that would justify the risk. But slowly squeezing through a crack in impenetrable jagged stone just so you can get to a small dark opening with nothing in it only to turn around and do it again just makes no sense to me.
Yeah... I like risky thrills plenty but this doesnt seem to be thrilling to me at all. It looks just dreadful. Ive got a filthy stormwater culvert near my house, suppose I will go crawl back and forth through that a few times... wow so great.
Exactly. And at least if my parachute fails I'm done and out in a few minutes. Getting stuck in a cave and starving/pissing myself/suffocating slowly isn't really my idea of a good way out.
Doing things that you know can cause you harm or is a risk to yourself is a question on the PCL 5 a diagnostic questionnaire for PTSD so you may not be far wrong
Sand Cave is where Floyd Collins spent 18 days trapped and eventually died of exposure. No thanks
"As he returned through the tight crawl, his foot dislodged a 27-pound rock which wedged his ankle in place. Try as he might in his awkward position he could not remove his foot. He was trapped in a stone straight-jacket. Thus begun Floyd’s harrowing tale in Sand Cave."
I had to turn on my desk fan because i started sweating profusely just watching the first 3-4 cuts in this video. I like caves and I think they're cool, but I'm happy enough with the ones I can just walk into thanks.
Same...did spelunking in Canada and in a glowworm cave in new Zealand and the sections where we had to shimmy our body through a narrow space made me panic. I had to literally tell myself "I am safe, I am capable" over and over to not freak out for the two minutes of being in a confined space with my arms in front of me and having to keep my head to the side.... Shall not be doing it again
This is exactly the reason. Is there any planning or pre-caving imagery done? My fear would be a tiny spot with no way out and just being stuck. Insane, just insane.
I guess in most cases there is some history or exploration in these popular destination caves like nuttyputty. Apparently he took a wrong turn and thought the hole he was headed into was the right way- not a dead end.
Nearer to me there are underwater spring caves that people do this in - adding further elements of danger. I just don’t get it. There is no treasure room to see, no lost civilization to discover - just rocks and mud in the dark.
Caves are neat, so is geology. Don’t get me wrong. Loved visiting “cave of the winds” and the like - walking underground comfortably is neato.
That guy who died stuck upsidedown in Nutty Putty cave had a good life with no prior cases of depression. He had friends, a lovable wife and was expecting their first child. My guess is some people fell like failures if they don't overcome some huge obstacle in their life. You don't see people who came from poverty doing this, it is always the rich and people who had easygoing lives.
Also, I believe this is some sort of ritual for the rich to prove themselves they have absolute control over everything, even over nature. Because they can afford the equipment, physical conditioning and best guides to shield themselves from almost any natural danger.
Eff all of this. None of this is for me, but the guy with the selfie stick in the flooded cave seems particularly stupid. Any experienced cavers can confirm if that is as dumb as it looks?
I think about the Thai Seal that died after fighting blood infections from foul water after rescuing that soccer team. This guy has that dirty water up to his eyes and ears, eyes have like -90% immune system action.
The other Thai seal died ferrying oxygen tanks to save those kids, no shade on him either!
I actually didn't know about this. I feel like when we talk about this incident it revolves around Elon Musk and the success of saving the boys without his help
That is a person who should never be named in relation to this event. The attention hog. Instead mention:
Lt. Cmdr. Saman Kunan: died ferrying oxygen to the kids
Petty Officer Beiret Bureerak: died from blood infection
Vernon Unsworth: knew the bureaucracy, culture, his leadership and knowledge prevented catastrophe
Dr. Richard "Harry" Harris: came up with a anesthetic plan that was on paper 60% fatality rate, carried it out with 0 child fatalities. Granted diplomatic immunity to be safe
Is that cave horizontal? Where does the water come from? Is it a stable depth? Rain water?
It really could be fine, or it could be an otherwise empty cave that's being flooding due to heavy rain. In that case, it'd not be a smart move to dive through it.
There is zero chance I would ever do anything like this. Zero. Zilch. None.
Elon musk could offer me all his money in return and I’d still call him a cunt and tell him to fuck off.
I would have preferred if it was me to just lethal inject me than his fate. If the movie was accurate they wanted to break both his legs & hold him in half to try dragging him out.
This killed me. It has been so long since a comment online produced uncontrollable laughter in me. The combination of the sheer misfortune captured by your caption and the throwback meme with that stupid smile had me rolling.
I don't know why we call them irrational phobias. Makes perfect sense to be to be afraid of enclosed spaces, snakes, spiders, heights, etc. They can be extremely dangerous as you found out the hard way.
That's wild, honestly if anyone has claustrophobia and want to tackle it, please don't do the final final boss. Maybe start with your wardrobe or something
Firstly. I would never do this. Secondly, if you absolutely must go caving, if you have to remove your safety equipment in order to fit in the hole, maybe dont go in the hole?
But what if I am happily married with a good job and 3 kids and this is the cave called "Killer of men who are happily married with a good job and 3 kids"? How can I possibly miss out on it?
I admit, I'm an adrenaline junkie. Skydiving? Yep. Bungee jumping? Absolutely. Motorcycles at high rates of speed? Love. This shit? Not a chance in hell.
This is one of those things where they think it's fun and have immediate regret when they get stuck and realize they will die in a tight space by slowly dehydrating over the next three days.
I honestly get short winded and anxiety just from watching these videos. Surprised more people don’t die doing this stupid “activity”. Like that dude that got stuck upside down in that Nutter Butter Cave or whatever it’s called. They wound up cementing the cave in and leaving him down there. Fuck that.
I enjoy exploring caves. I do not enjoy anything near this extreme. If it's a very short narrow squeeze to get through to a nice open space, I'm in. If I have to crawl or not breathe, I'm out.
I think part of it has got to be surviving it once. The brain does that odd thing of tricking you into believing that since you did something once you can just get away with it every time now.
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