r/TopCharacterTropes • • 19d ago

miscellaneous (Meta trope) A trope is named after it's most iconic/infamous example

  1. "Fridging" - a love interest female character is killed off (aka "fridged") to serve as motivation to the male main character. Named after a 1994 DC comic where the villain, Major Force, kills Kyle Rayner's girlfriend and stuffs her into a refrigerator.

  2. "Flanderization" - A personality trait of a character is emphasized more and more as the series goes on, leading to them becoming what feels like a caricature of their past selves. Named after Ned Flanders from The Simpsons, whose religious observance became more and more emphasized until it turned into extreme dogmatism.

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u/Mental-Platypus-9192 19d ago

Draco (Ancient Greece) Famously punished any transgression with death His name is where we derived the Term Draconian

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u/TyrconnellFL 19d ago

And King Pyrrhus of Epirus of somewhat less ancient Greece, who gave us Pyrrhic victory against the Romans.

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u/Nyther53 19d ago

"somewhat less Ancienct Greece" made me laugh. Thank you. 

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u/TyrconnellFL 19d ago

Truly somewhat! Draco was 7th century BC, and Pyrrhus’s famous battles were 3rd century BC. That makes Draco Archaic and Pyrrhus Hellenistic period.

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u/Nyther53 19d ago

No, I agree it's a perfectly accurate description it was just also very funny. 

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u/Heraldofgold 19d ago

poor guy, he was actually a really good general, he just got fucked over by skill based match making.

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u/Unluckyb33 19d ago

This applies to quite a lot of people throughout history such as machiavellianism/Machiavelli or Freudian/Freud but idk if real people counts as trope

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u/Th3B4dSpoon 19d ago

I feel sorry for Machiavelli. He accurately described what it takes to succeed as a prince in his time and advocated for a republican form of government instead.

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u/Ao_Kiseki 18d ago

This applies to A LOT of philosophers and thinkers. People don't actually k ow anything about them and automatically assume they supported anything they wrote about. Nietzsche gets the same treatment with nihilism.

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u/CollinsCouldveDucked 19d ago

Here's a nice picture of the fonz getting ready to jump the shark.

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u/SomeGuyPostingThings 19d ago

And that was the BEST. EPISODE.

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u/naynaythewonderhorse 19d ago

To be perfectly frank, the only two things I know happen in Happy Days are 1. Fonzi jumping the shark, and 2. That the brother went upstairs at the end of the first season and never came back down.

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u/iner22 19d ago

Chuck Cunningham Syndrome. We keep trying to raise awareness, but no one seems to know anyone suffering from it...

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u/domino7873 19d ago

I thought Judy from Family Matters found him up there in some alternate dimension, and was lost forever... Makes me think they should make a show about characters written off shows with no explanation. Make it a horror or sci fi themed show/movie.

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u/SnooDonkeys4126 19d ago

Chucks just out right my dad buying cigarettes

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u/NwgrdrXI 19d ago

Irrc, the fonz was also not allowed to actually ride his bike, only stand beside it, and as a revenge the writers made him stand besides it literally all the time, even in restaurants and such

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u/Delta_Hammer 19d ago

According to IMDb, in season 1 the studio executives were afraid showcasing the kind of rebel that wears a leather jacket would lose the family audience. The producers argued that it was safety gear, so the rule became Fonzie could only wear the leather jacket when he was on the bike or about to ride. So they put the motorcycle in every single Fonzie scene and logic be damned. I remember one where Fonzie was reclining on the bike like it was a couch and a couple guys wheeled him into a LOCKER ROOM!

Of course, by season 2 the Fonz was so popular that they considered renaming it to The Fonzie Show...

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u/Chase_the_tank 18d ago

I remember one where Fonzie was reclining on the bike like it was a couch and a couple guys wheeled him into a LOCKER ROOM!

If you get a chance to use a motorcycle as a sight gag, you're going to use a motorcycle as a sight gag.

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u/Empty-Part7106 19d ago

Let us pause to reflect on the sacred mystery of Richie's elder brother Chuck, who ascended the stairs with his basketball in season one and never came down again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zwHlzVm1kM

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u/Dismal-Vanilla1878 19d ago

And the inverse of this: Riker's Beard 😂

Its sometimes called 'Growing The Beard' to try to avoid any potential copyright infringement, unlike 'Jumping The Shark', which is generic enough.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tv/articles/star-trek-rikers-beard-actually-231200193.html

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 19d ago

For context, jumping the shark means when a show or movie has gone off the walls from what it used to be in a negative way while growing the beard is when what starts mediocre grows into its acclaim

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u/Additional-Heat-9384 19d ago

The term "sadism" comes from the Marquis de Sade, a writer characterized by the extreme sexual violence present in his works.

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u/RevelryByNight 19d ago

And his counterpart, Leopold von Sacher-Masoch, lent his name to masochism, thanks in part to his work Venus in Furs

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u/OftenConfused1001 19d ago

Oh Sacher-Mosch and Venus in Fues is this whole insane thing. Not just what he wrote and did, but the way all of that also sort of got embedded in the beginnings of psychiatry as a field and how it calling it masochism was also basically gleefully shoving the knife into an academic rival.

If Lin Manuel-Miranda turned that whole absolutely insane story into a musical, I'd be front fucking row. I mean the rap battles alone.

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u/Extension_Heron6392 19d ago

Imagine being so freaky you get a kink named after you.

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u/IUsedToBeRasAlGhul 19d ago

I think sadism has evolved past kink in how it’s used, but yeah what a fucking nut.

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u/Wasdgta3 19d ago

Yeah, it’s more like “imagine being so freaky that your name is synonymous with fucked up perversion”

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u/bigduckmoses 18d ago

Yeah, the sexual violence in his work is less the 'chains, whips and consenting adults' sort, and more the 'rape, murder and pedophilia' sort.

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u/SazukaSilence 18d ago

Tbf he used his sexual depravity in his writing to show a lot of his perceived abuse of peasantry by the aristocracy.
He was...very creative with his imagery though that much is very true.

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u/KalutikaKink 19d ago

Precisely

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u/Allegorist 18d ago

It evolved into a kink, the broader usage came way earlier. The equivalent of the kink itself in practice obviously came first, probably dating back into prehistory, but not associated with the term.

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u/BigBallsAnthony69 19d ago

You think they'll eventually call unhealthy degrees of attraction to motherly middle aged males "Anthonyism"?

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u/HellFire-Revenant 19d ago

I...am unaware of the reference

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u/Extension_Heron6392 19d ago

Look at the username of the guy you replied to.

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u/Propagandhi1988 19d ago

And Masochism comes from the author Leopold von Sacher-Masoch because he frequently expressed masochistic themes in his works.

The term was coined by psychiatrist Richard von Krafft-Ebing, and Sacher-Masoch did not approve of it.

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u/Th3B4dSpoon 19d ago

Iirc he only found out about it by reading von Krafft-Ebing discussing masochism publicly. I'd be upset too.

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u/Thundering-Cloud 19d ago

So it's not actually "say-dism" but "Sah-dism"?

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u/BeenEatinBeans 19d ago

Kryptonite

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u/TroutShovelr 19d ago

What do you think Superman’s kryptonite is?

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u/NinjaOfOnion 19d ago

Lois Lane 

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u/jango-got-chained 19d ago edited 18d ago

In more ways than one. She's his biggest weakness.

You wanna kill Superman? Shoot a Kryptonite bullet at Lois, he'll take it for her 100% of times.

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u/Suspicious-Capital12 19d ago

Fourteen year olds /j

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u/IUsedToBeRasAlGhul 19d ago edited 19d ago

John Byrne, everybody.

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u/Solbuster 19d ago

John Byrne, not Bryne

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u/dead_parakeets 19d ago

Really like his work in general but man is the guy a big POS. I guess this shouldn’t surprise me.

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u/Iced_Yehudi 18d ago

Holy shit it all makes sense now

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u/mike_pants 19d ago

Most of you probably already know this, but for the two of you that don't: Kryptonite was first introduced to his lore because the man who played Superman on the radio drama wanted to take a vacation, so Superman was incapacitated by Kryptonite for a couple of weeks before miraculously recovering.

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u/TelgarTheTerrible 19d ago

Ah yes his achilles heel

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u/Spare-Bowler-3105 19d ago edited 18d ago

The Streisand effect, which states that an attempt at hiding something only draws more attention, is named after Barbra Streisand, who got upset when a beach photography project got a few pictures of her house, and tried to have them taken down. She failed, and the names of the house pictures were changed to reflect whose it was.

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u/Not_a_gay_communist 19d ago

When she filed a lawsuit to have the picture removed, it had only 4 downloads. 2 of which were her lawyers. When everyone heard about the lawsuit, the picture was downloaded thousands of times.

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u/BlatantConservative 18d ago

To be completely fair, she was worried about one specific stalker, not the general public at large. One download would be enough. IIRC he'd already followed her to five cities at that point and attempted entry of her residence several times.

Her lawyers sucked donkey dick for sure and weren't great at doing anything helpful for her, but it always felt victim blaming to blame her personally.

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u/Xentonian 18d ago

In the decades that this story has circulated, I have never once heard this nuance.

Thank you

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u/tenkenjs 18d ago

For real. This is like the McDonald’s coffee lawsuit

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u/Ok-Ad-2605 19d ago

They focus wasn’t even that is was her house which is the crazy part! The photographer was doing a project on the California coast

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u/ArcanistLupus 18d ago

And after all other information about her is forgotten to time, she'll only be remembered for the Streisand Effect

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u/Zealousideal_Art2159 19d ago

The Worf Effect, for when the supposedly powerful character is constantly defeated to show how tough a newcomer is. Named after Worf from Star Trek.

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u/Talen_Neo 19d ago

Got so bad he was getting defeated by barrels at one point

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u/Kerl_of_Fox_County 19d ago

That Donkey Kong crossover was a weird choice...

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u/Sinistaire 19d ago

Don't give the SNW writers any more ideas.

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u/PhatPhingerz 19d ago edited 19d ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8PqC7i0mEI

My favourite has got to be:

"What happened?"

"He just collapsed, sir"

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u/Kaneda-Suekichi 19d ago

Barrels that were obviously empty by how they hit him

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u/Historical_Gur_3054 19d ago

And why would they need empty barrels stacked up when they have replicator technology?

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u/Any-Smell-4929 18d ago

Supposedly the energy requirements go up exponentially based on the size/mass of the object. Most of the things we replicated in TNG are small food objects like earl grey tea or ice cream sundaes.

I think the largest shown onscreen replicated object was the glass swan Worf gave the O'briens in "Data's Day".

DS9 makes dialogue references to "industrial replicators" that were going to be given the Bajorans by the Federation. I assume those were for larger objects. There was also the magically self-replicating cloaking minefield encountered in the later part of the Dominion War.

Its hard to determine how big those object were, they were heavily inspired by Klingon mines encountered earlier which might have been the size of a photon torpedo. I might be wrong, its been a long time since I have done a rewatch of DS9.

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u/the-puppet_master 19d ago

They did that to Superman in JL and corrected it in JLU

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 19d ago

Yeah, instead Martian Manhunter got double Worfed

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u/Okrumbles 19d ago

Welcome to my bridge, would you like to kick the shit out of my Klingon?

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u/InkyTheHooloovoo 19d ago

There was a time period in Marvel comics (I want to say late 80s - early 90s?) when Wolverine was constantly getting beat up for the same reason.

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u/HeyWhatTheDUCK 19d ago

Tbf, Wolverine's power isn't to be strong, it's to regenerate, a better example would be like how every new Avengers villain HAS to trash Thor, who's actually strong

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u/Dark-Specter 19d ago

interestingly while not a name for the trope, I've seen DCAU Superman and The Immortal being used as examples almost as often.

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u/mike_pants 19d ago

MacGyvering a solution by wildly improvising with whatever random bits you happen to have on hand. Based on a show whose name I can't remember.

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u/juicysteak4806 19d ago

God, MacGyver is peak

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u/mickdrop 19d ago

Ah yes, Stargate SG1

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u/Responsible_Mail_113 18d ago

They actually made a reference in the pilot episode. At one point, Carter mentions (to Macguyver himself, Richard Dean Anderson) how she and the engineer team had to Macguyver up a workaround to the Stargate's destroyed control panel.

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u/Fischerking92 18d ago

Also in an outtake from season 1 where Carter says "I am on an ice planet with McGuyver, built a frigging nuke already" or something along those lines.

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u/Rectal_Lactaids 19d ago

“Dead Dove: Do Not Eat” is a popular fanfic tag for stories that include exactly what they’re tagged about. based on an episode of Arrested Development when Michael finds a paper bag labeled “Dead Dove: Do Not Eat”, opens it up, and finds a dead dove inside, saying “I don’t know what I expected.” it’s mostly used to accompany mature and controversial tags, but realistically it just means “this fic is what it says on the tin”

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u/Kookaburra_Hotpants 19d ago

It's used so often for mature or controversial tags that when people use it in the other sense, it is often regarded as a mis-tag.

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u/TotallyWorthLife 19d ago

Yeah, I have often seen it as a catch-all for "taboo/controversial/hard to stomach" things

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u/SomeGuyPostingThings 19d ago

Funny enough, Simpsons de-Flanderized a lot of characters, particularly Flanders, who was allowed to become a nuanced character again.

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u/Slippery_Syrup_89 19d ago

The greatest irony is that the most flanderized character in the Simpsons is Lisa

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u/WillowMyown 19d ago

I’d say Homer. He isn’t nearly as stupid in the initial episodes.

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u/casualreader22 19d ago

Love the letter bit in the 138th episode spectacular. "I think Homer gets stupider every year!" That episode aired 31 years ago...

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u/casualreader22 19d ago

I appreciate you pointing this out, because these days whenever Flanderization just gets thrown out my immediate desire is to point out how nobody ever bothers to mention that The Simpsons has been on for so long that Flanders went back to being a good character ages ago lol.

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u/Dead_fawn 19d ago

The name of the genre roguelike comes from the game Rogue.

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u/SpakkaTheOne 19d ago

A similar thing is happening or has happened with Soulslike

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u/CussMuster 19d ago

Metroidvania as well

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u/Dry_Criticism_4982 19d ago edited 19d ago

In 1977, A comic called Cerebus was made. The comic was initially just a parody of the sword and fantasy comic’s of the time like Conan the Barbarian only staring an Aardvark, but after a while Cerebus got more complex with its plot. You had storylines involving corruption in both the political and religious levels, storylines that where basically just the writer of the comic (Dave Simm) ranting with minimal illustration, and even an arc that had to deal with Oscar Wilde; all of which were usually taken seriously despite the main character being an anthropomorphic Aardvark warrior.

Nowadays, The comic is perhaps better know for its trope name: Cerebus Syndrome where an initially funny or lighthearted series takes a turn into more serious storytelling and storylines.

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u/ShatnersChestHair 18d ago edited 18d ago

I post this comic at least once a month in the DnD subreddits. Often new DMs get frustrated that players show up to the table with a "funny" PC concept but in my experience, whatever funny quirky gimmicky thing they had in mind runs its course by the end of session 2 and they end up developing the character whether they realize it or not.

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u/atfricks 18d ago

Unfortunately I do know people who when they get bored of the joke, will just try to get their character killed so they can bring in their next silly character idea.

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u/kingofroses1999 18d ago

My favorite version of this trope is narbonic. A zany newspaper comic strip about a mad scientist woman obsessed with ardvarks and the straight man she hired as an intern. Eventually it turns into a genuinely gripping narrative about the nature of evil and one's place in the world and their own personal narrative 

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u/ScottybirdCorvus 19d ago edited 18d ago

My absolute favorite example of this trope is played out in the excessively long webcomic Sluggy Freelance. It was originally just the zany, improbable adventures of two idiot dudes, and somehow has turned into a surprisingly captivating Sci-Fi/Fantasy (but not Sci-Fantasy) action-drama with foreshadowing like you ain’t never seen before and so many interconnected storylines that you would be forgiven for needing to take notes to keep track of it all.

Edit: See also, somehow Dr. McNinja? Still not really sure how that happened.

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u/UnquestionabIe 19d ago

What's so crazy about Cerebus is how for quite awhile it's a legit excellent read. It's got well written humor, interesting commentary on society and politics, and has an enjoyable variety of characters. Than Dave Sims got divorced and it became big time misogynist energy to the point most people just stop reading (rightful so).

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u/Jenbie272 19d ago edited 19d ago

Lots of examples of this in video games

Metroidvania are games with the open world platformer structure popularized in Metroid and Castlevania.

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u/NinjaOfOnion 19d ago

There’s also Rogue-likes, named after the video game Rogue

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u/HarioDinio 19d ago

And Rogue-Lites. Which express rogue qualities but are distinguished by emphasis on meta progression

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u/mike_pants 19d ago

And now Souls-like, adventure/fighting games with a heavy emphasis on parrying and dodging as opposed to hack-and-slash fighting tactics, based on Dark Souls, a pioneer of the genre.

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u/Sir_Eggmitton 19d ago

Soulslike falls into this too. And before Halo, the name for the FPS genre was “Doom clones”—though now we’d call that style of FPS a “Boomer shooter.”

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u/Alpha_RTD 19d ago

Its basically just how new game subgenres get named these days, roguelikes and roguelites are both named after the original Rogue

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u/Jaxonhunter227 19d ago

It's such a great way to name them too, a constant reminder of the game that started it

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u/LetterheadSpecial337 19d ago

Specifically in Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, which was significantly more Metroid like in gameplay than its predecessors

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u/rara8122 19d ago

The noodle incident: Calvin and Hobbs.

A noodle incident is a moment that’s alluded to but not directly shown, giving the audience room to imagine. Other examples being Budapest from the MCU and the llama incident from Milo Murphey’s law.

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u/HomelanderVought 19d ago

So like Manfredy and Johnson from the Penguins of Madagascar.

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u/The_Multi_Gamer 19d ago

The jockstrap incident from DBZA

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u/A_Drunk_Senator 19d ago

At least he had Ginyu to dig the hole

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u/yayaupg_ 19d ago

And the both subverted/misunderstood the trope by showing the event Milo did it well

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u/Budget_Newspaper_489 19d ago

The Noodle Incident Trope is named after the Calvin and Hobbes running gag

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u/DisMFer 19d ago

"A Mary Sue" A character in fan works who has no flaws, is loved by all the good characters, and is the best at everything is named after a (possibly satirical) character in a Star Trek Fan Fiction magazine in the 70s or 80s called...Mary Sue.

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u/TyrconnellFL 19d ago

An absolutely satirical character. The original story is not even slightly subtle about it. The first paragraph is the character being the youngest officer in Starfleet. The second is Kirk being in love with her and wanting to sleep with her.

The story is roughly one page long. Read it and marvel and the birth of a meme before memes were even cool: https://fanlore.org/wiki/A_Trekkie%27s_Tale

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u/Doughbi 19d ago edited 19d ago

I'll be honest. I had my doubts of it being satirical when it was first described to me, but the first bit of dialogue being "Gee, golly, gosh, gloriosky" really wiped the doubts away. I have to wonder if if was done to mock someone specifically.

Edit: Probably should have just read the page further. Pretty interesting! Thanks for sharing.

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u/TyrconnellFL 19d ago

Unlike some of the examples here, Mary Sue the character was an intentional parody and codifier of a phenomenon that the author has observed and wished to mock. She became a shorthand, not as a shining example, but as a first example of “official” trope recognition. That’s some real Mary Sue energy!

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u/john2222222222 18d ago

"all weeping unashamedly at the loss of her beautiful youth and youthful beauty" is actually such a great line

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u/ScottybirdCorvus 19d ago

And let me tell you, teenagers on internet RP forums LOVE calling people out for Mary Sue’ing - no matter how near or far one strays from a character’s set limitations.

Source: I was once a teenager on the internet with an RPNation account (2012-2016).

Edit: In retrospect, that could be attributed the recency bias, in part. Give a teenager, who already feels powerless and so has turned to roleplaying, a new method of control and they will JUMP on it, then overuse it.

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u/evening_emerald 19d ago

Mary Sue walked so Ebony Darkness Dementia Raven Way could run

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u/gay_rower 19d ago

This isn't a trope so much as a real life term, but "gaslighting" is named for the 1944 Hollywood movie "Gaslight" based on the 1938 stage play by Patrick Hamilton.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Step468 19d ago

It isn't, the movie and play don't really exist

It's just an internet myth you fell for

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u/gay_rower 19d ago

you almost got me, lmao

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u/ASidesTheLegend 19d ago

Xanatos Gambit, which is when all of the outcomes of someone’s plan benefits them, even if it seems like it would fail. Named after David Xanatos, the main villain of Gargoyles.

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u/brandthacker12 19d ago

Now I’ve heard this term critically…

For instance in Warhammer Xeentch armies will lose and then go, “but it was our plan all along!” With no evidence they actually emerged on top at all

However, it’s not negative in the context of the gargoyles villain, is it?

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u/Iron_Nightingale 19d ago

No, it’s not. A few examples:

Xanatos busts a gang of previous enemies out of prison (except the leader, who stays behind). The gang make trouble for the gargoyles and are defeated. Xanatos doesn’t care, because his real goal was getting the gang leader an early parole.

An ancient gargoyle is brought back to life by a mixture of tech and sorcery. “Coldstone” raids a tech firm, battles the gargoyles, gets talked down and goes into exile. Xanatos’ real goal was to steal a computer virus from the tech firm, which happened back in Act One and nobody noticed it.

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u/SiriusBaaz 18d ago

I fucking love it when a story manages to properly set up a villain like this. Watching the heroes flounder as the foil plot after plot without realizing the true end goal is good damn reveal. Like firing thirty checkovs guns all at once.

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u/insomniac7809 18d ago

Which isn't to say that the Gargoyles never get an uncomplicated win, or that Xanatos never takes a straightforward L. Nonzero cases where he basically has to come hat in hand to get the good guys to clean up his messes (whether it's "I turned my girlfriend into a rampaging werewolf" or "I helped your ex-girlfriend curse everyone in Manhattan to turn into stone at night")

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u/bishopOfMelancholy 19d ago

To answer your last question, it's not negative in the context of the gargoyles villain: in fact, he's often the example of how to do it right.

And a lot of it has to do with clear writing. How do they still win? What were there goals? A Xanatos Gambit can still work if the primary goal fails but a secondary won was completed, for instance. Gargoyles shows that pretty well. The 40k is honestly a bit lit Sage in the Boy's "It was my plan all along" type of thing.

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u/lordfireice 19d ago edited 18d ago

Very nicely done and here’s an example to prove your point.

Xanatos sends a bot that looks like him to free a bunch of mercenaries from prison. After the bot works with them to try and beat our hero’s but fails. We find out at the end of the episode that the bot was deployed to complete 3 objectives.

Main objective- give a prisoner an early release for exemplary conduct (ie staying in prison,) and helping a guard

Secondary objective one - test out the robotics design that could potentially mimic its creator

Secondary objective two - destroy or capture the manhattan gargoyle clan.

Main objective success

Secondary objective one success

Secondary objective two failure

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u/IUsedToBeRasAlGhul 19d ago

The idea is basically that, no matter how things go, the character has engineered their plan to always end in their benefit, even if they fail at one superficial thing or the other along the way. Every plausible and mutually exclusive outcome has to be successful to qualify as an Xanatos Gambit.

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u/Solbuster 19d ago

Basically there's always a silver lining for the planner regardless of the outcome, yeah

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u/Pension_Pale 19d ago

Yeah something like "shit I got my ass beat ten ways from sunday, but at least i distracted them long enough to get the macguffin"

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u/Invoqwer 19d ago

It's more multi layered than that, more like:

  • if the goons I hired defeat the good guys (unlikely, but still), then I win

  • if the goons I hired get defeated by the good guys, they will still buy enough time for me to steal the mcguffin, so I win

  • if the good guys defeat the goons but also somehow grab the mcguffin pre emptively, they don't have the anti-mcguffin stabilizing agent, which will cause the mcguffin and the surrounding 3 city blocks to explode, making it look like the good guys tried to bomb city, killing their reputation publicly and thus they will no longer impede me in the future. So I win.

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u/space_coyote_86 19d ago

Redshirt: some disposable character who goes with the main characters so someone can die.

https://giphy.com/gifs/OUNV8Wn7t5bRw0Sc11

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u/Literati_drake 19d ago

I had the mom's exact same thought when I first came across the term in a different context

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u/iam_melon_lord 19d ago

Deus Ex Machina coming from Ancient Greek theatre using a crane like device to lower in gods during a performance, typically resulting in the resolution of the story’s conflict

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u/Oh_Another_Thing 19d ago

The meaning of the phrase today means that an unforseen person or event comes along, with no foreshadowing or build up, and conveniently wraps up all the problems for the main characters. 

It means it's a literal act of God happened and saved everyone, resulting in an unsatisfying ending. 

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u/Shadow_190103 19d ago

jumping the shark

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u/mike_pants 19d ago

Point of order: the shark was never shown in the episode.

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u/Stickhtot 19d ago

Is his name jumping?

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u/AbsoluteSupes 19d ago

I would say the use of "Frankenstein" to describe something as cobbled together from different sources, from the Mary Shelly book "Frankenstein"

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u/outofmaxx 19d ago

The Jobber

From pro-wrestling, a guy who loses and only loses in order to make other guys look good

https://giphy.com/gifs/l41JT8RLFbHxmyCZO

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u/--PhoenixFire-- 19d ago

The titular character's crusade against windmills in Don Quixote led to two instances of this:

"Tilting at Windmills" - Fighting enemies that aren't there, or waging a struggle that only exists in your mind.

"Quixotic" - People or schemes that are so blinded by ideals that they are separated from reality.

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u/Loki-L 19d ago

Also the band "They might be Giants"

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u/BananaShakeStudios 19d ago edited 18d ago

The MatPat effect, where a certain edited image has become so iconic, that the original looks edited

Named after Matthew Patrick, former host of The Game Theorists, who often used a cutout of himself to represent him in his videos. That one is the left, the original is on the right.

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u/Mindless-Piccolo-492 19d ago

My brain is resisting my every attempt to believe the real image is not edited

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u/Ranger202012 19d ago

It's so uncanny seeing the original. Not in a million years could I guess that the cutout was from this image, it looks so fake here as well.

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u/LordQuaz12 19d ago

Getting 4kidsed

4kids used to be an anime distribution company back in the day that was notorious for their egregious censorship, most infamous being The shadow realm (a way to censor all the death that was happening in the original yugioh series).

When something is being "4kidsed" it usually refers to that thing being so heavily censored, it becomes unrecognisable.

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u/Diello2001 19d ago

Aything with the suffix “-gate”

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u/Personal-Listen-4941 19d ago

All taken from the Ur example Watergategate

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u/Talen_Neo 19d ago

Exactl- Wait.....

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u/Great-Powerful-Talia 19d ago

It's funny that Oceangate was the actual name of the company, because it just sounds like a hastily-invented name for an embarrassing and publicized oceanic incident.

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u/LycanIndarys 19d ago

The frustrating thing with this one is that British politics genuinely had a scandal involving an incident that happened at a gate, and the press didn't call it gategate.

Instead, it was plebgate, as a government minister allegedly insulted a police officer by calling him a "pleb" during a "don't you know who I am?" argument about letting the minister through the security on Downing Street.

Though given that the scandal resulted in one police officer going to prison and several more for being fired, perhaps the silly name would do it a disservice.

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u/VeryPteri 19d ago edited 18d ago

Sixth Ranger (DragonRanger/Green Ranger)

When an additional member joins a pre-established group and greatly shakes up the dynamic with their power and character.

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u/Alive-Vanilla1216 19d ago

"Thermian Problem" is my favorite one. It's when people defend parts of a story by using the in-universe reasoning, but ignore the fact that the entire story, complete with all those in-universe reasonings, was created by the author. It's named after the Thermians from Galaxy Quest, who have no concept of lying or fiction in their culture, so they take everything literally.

One example would be the house elves in Harry Potter. They like serving wizards, so the defense of them being slaves is that they like it. Which ignores that they were written to like being enslaved, as well as being written to be slaves in the first place. Another example is Momo in My Hero Academia. She creates objects by growing them out of her body. As a result, her costume is extremely revealing. The explanation people give is that she has to have that much skin showing, otherwise she'd be unnecessarily hampering her quirk, but that ignores that the author decided that that is how her ability works, and he could have written it in a way that didn't require a teenage girl to wear an extremely revealing outfit all the time.

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u/Kazeite 18d ago

"She breathes through her skin" also comes to mind 🙄

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u/Own-Arachnid7952 18d ago

Oh my god I had no idea there was a term for this, I will remember this

More and more nowadays folks approach media with this perspective rather than viewing it as purposefully-written. Especially in TV shows and movies, good writers will not waste limited screen time for 0 reason. Every part of how a story is told is pre-determined.

I looove discussing the deeper parts of books, shows, and movies, or even just. Sitting and processing the ending. None of my friends are really into that anymore. Makes me sad

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u/_Svankensen_ 18d ago

Holy crap. There is a term for that! I have struggled with it before, often when asking in fan subreddits about Doylist explanations and having gotten the Watsonian ones. I actually don't think this new term will help me at all in those occasions, but it does bring me some solace to know that enough people have suffered through it to have coined a term.

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u/SpaceZombie13 19d ago

"Oh hey this Zant guy is really cool. I'm glad Twilight Princess decided to bring a new antagonist to the series and try something new to- oh god dammit, the plot's been HIJACKED BY GANON."

For when it seems like the bad guy is someone new, only for the very end to reveal it's the same guy as the last ten games, seemingly out of nowhere. a recent example would be Donky Kong Bananza having Void Kong as the antagonist only for King K. Rool to randomly show up as the final boss.

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u/IAmAlucard 19d ago

It Was His Sled - When a major spoiler of a certain media is so shocking and iconic it’s not even considered a spoiler anymore. Originally codified by Citizen Kane, the trope was later named in Family Guy by a recording of Peter Griffin taped over the movie in one episode.

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u/AbsoluteSupes 19d ago

Its the case with Jekyll and Hyde too, where the identity of Mr. Hyde and his relationship to Dr. Jekyll is the central mystery of the original book but is now just a term for alternate personality stories because its so ingrained in culture

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u/assymetry1021 18d ago

Darth Vader being Luke’s dad, Super Saiyan, Sans Undertale being the final boss of genocide

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u/ShurikenKunai 18d ago

Another example being Dracula. Dracula being a vampire is like. An actual mystery for a bit in the book.

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u/Doctor-Nagel 19d ago

Bro they fucked up my boy here what happened? 😭 🙏

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u/nomadfoy 19d ago

Cousin Oliver.

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u/Misterwuss 19d ago

Cliff hanger, leaving something on an unresolved note to leave the audience in suspense and to let them come to their own conclusions

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u/artys1luv 19d ago

Cliff Hanger, hanging from a cliiiiiiff! And that’s why he’s called Cliff Hanger!

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u/tangledwebweaved 19d ago

Mildy shocked that jumping the shark wasn't one of the examples

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u/Solbuster 19d ago

The Starscream trope of being treacherous second-in-command to the main villain

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u/TheNohrianHunter 19d ago

This is a variant of "the dragon" second in command to the villain, but the focus on treachery (as well as often being less strong/capabale) than the main villain I would say distinguishes it enough.

Though it is often just called the scheming vizier

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u/thatnewsauce 19d ago

Scheming Vizier more often applies to cases like Wormtongue in Lotr where their target is not necessarily villainous

"The Starscream" is notable because it represents a threat to the Big Bad that does not take the form of the Hero, making the central conflict more multilayered and chaotic

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u/Prismatic_Leviathan 19d ago

My single favorite Transformers scene was Starscream defending Megatron in court.

"Your honor, you can't hold my client responsible for the Cybertron wars because he was a useless moron who was mostly just along for the ride. You shouldn't punish him, you should pity him for being such an incapable jackass no one actually liked."

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u/singleguy79 19d ago

Batman Gambit: A plan that revolves entirely around people doing exactly what you'd expect them to do.

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u/SnomIsAwesome 19d ago

Does lovecraftian horror count??
https://giphy.com/gifs/l3q2N3zQsKzC99UIM

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u/ScottybirdCorvus 19d ago

That’s more of a genre than a trope, but personally I think it meets the spirit of the post.

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u/TrainerWeekly5641 19d ago

Don't know if the Akira slide counts, but it's famously named after Akira sliding with his motorcycle.

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u/jayro12345 19d ago

Funnily enough the slide was actually done by shotaro, not akira

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u/Usual-Vermicelli-867 19d ago

Xanatos Gambit

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u/SomeGuyPostingThings 19d ago

Xanatos Gambit sounds like a bad OC combination of David Xanatos and Remy Lebeau.

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u/Active-Ad-2527 19d ago

"Kobayashi Maru" where someone (usually leader) is thrust into an impossible to win scenario just to see how they do / what kind of leader they are

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u/CalminClam 19d ago

Big Lipped Alligator Moment

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u/Fallen_Angel_89 19d ago

Why did i read that with the Nostalgia Critic voice?

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u/iner22 19d ago

Not sure, but I think the trope itself was named after this scene by the Nostalgia Chick, aka Lindsay Ellis. That might have made the association in your mind

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u/FederalMacaron1 19d ago edited 19d ago

Growing the beard, when a show gets noticeably better in quality—the opposite of jumping the shark. Named after when Riker grew a beard in the second season of Star Trek TNG.

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u/MasemJ 19d ago

The Promethesus School of Running Away from Things. Aka 1D thinking. Popularized via CinemaSins.

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u/djtrace1994 19d ago

Isnt this the trope of some massive thing falling towards a very narrow strip of land, and for some reason the characters decide to run parallel to the falling thing rather than just run 20 ft to the side and be out of the path of collapse in seconds?

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u/SomeGuyPostingThings 19d ago

To be fair, the less directly you run away from a thing, the more it would catch up, so you need to hope you can push that other distance enough in the dwindling gap. Given how close it was, that is very risky. But I can understand why it looks bad.

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u/thatnewsauce 19d ago

It's also just hard to gauge trajectory when you're that close to something that much bigger than you are

Think about how you feel looking up at a skyscraper, and then imagining that you witness it collapse in front of you. You'd be booking it on reflex, and if you took the time to think about whether or not you're running in the "correct" direction, you'd be screwed lol

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u/Jurrasicmelon8 19d ago

The villain doing fun activities with the heroes,or go-karting with bowser

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u/pjo33 19d ago

The noodle incident

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u/Much-Recognition-418 19d ago

In the tv series arrested developpement there is an épisode where one character open the frigde and there is a paper bag labelled "dead dove do not eat " the character open it and see exactly what it is

The term dead dove is now used in fanfictions espically AO3 as a tag to say "the tag showed here are not an exageration it is really is that"

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u/mojomcm 19d ago

Dead Dove: Do Not Eat; fanfiction tag meaning that what's in the fic is exactly as it says on the outside so don't be surprised by what you find inside

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