r/classicwow • u/Dukenstein12 • 3d ago

Forever Beta Feedback A tiny little item has made my immersion jump like 300%

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With the way my contrast and gamma is set, the world can get VERY dark and having to use a torch has been so damn fun. Just makes me feel like I'm an actual adventure

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u/Ok_Buy1447 3d ago

They should honestly just make them an early craftable in cooking profession next to campfires.

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u/mekkr_ 3d ago

Better yet include a “Survival” secondary profession that compliments camping and lets you craft torches and oils.

I just googled this actually and apparently turtle wow had something like this. Blizz should 100% do that it’d be sick

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u/hugeretard420 3d ago

I can't tell if youre joking or not but that was what they planned to do in the original vanilla beta way back when then never implemented it, that's where turtle got it from lol

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u/mekkr_ 3d ago

I’m not, didn’t know about that. Hopefully they do it!

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u/Elden_Ring_Hype 3d ago

Honestly I think fishing, cooking, first aid, and stuff like the OP should just be put into a 'survival' profession. I feel like it would be a much better user experience than what we have now.

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u/Alkein 2d ago

Survival is already taken by hunters, could call it “adventuring” professions.

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u/esoteric_plumbus 3d ago

He said turtle had something like this, as in they actually implemented it, not that they invented it

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u/Prettybroki 3d ago

and? planned is different from doing. they prefer flying mounts and heroic dungeron to immersive world

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u/hugeretard420 3d ago

idk what you mean, im telling him what he asked for was literally planned in original beta, down to it being called survival and also having torches lol. thats why I asked if he was joking, it was basically 1:1

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u/Prettybroki 3d ago

Ok but they didnt implemented into the game so

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u/100plusRG 3d ago

If Blizz implemented a fraction of what Turtle developed, people would lose their minds. We absolutely got the Minimum Viable Product here.

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u/mekkr_ 3d ago

It’s early days though, best thing to do is hype up the good stuff with posts like these. This subreddit got a mention in announcement at blizzcon. I’m pretty optimistic we’ll get more of this flavour

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u/100plusRG 3d ago

True, they do have time to implement stuff, I hope they continue to do so.

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u/Aswizzle77 3d ago

Just tack it to cooking and rename it to camping I don't need a whole survival esq new secondary profession

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u/BottleEquivalent4581 3d ago

totally, horde side, torchs and lamps are hard to get through quests. First one is this quest i believe https://www.wowhead.com/classic/quest=893/weapons-of-choice

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u/Writer1988 3d ago

just as an aside, The Coastal Menace is actually a neutral quest (as is the ghosty captain guy that gives it), so you can actually just pop up to westfall as horde and complete this relatively easily. Quick access to a torch if you want it :D

https://www.wowhead.com/forever/quest=104/the-coastal-menace

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u/Deltamon 3d ago

It's even relatively easy to get to as a horde, you just take the zeppelin to grom'gol and instantly jump to water after loading screen.. And you can safely swim to the lighthouse.

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u/Mr_Joanito 3d ago

This!!!

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u/MrHandSanitization 3d ago

IMO could be a new profession similar to cooking/first-aid. Something like "survival" or "camping" that is filled with the gathering and creation of these items. Like being able to loot lamp-posts that also contain fuel or candles, and you need to refill your lantern, ot light your torch. And lanterns can be hooked to a belt, torches can be thrown, etc.

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u/The-Iron-knight 3d ago

What is that and how does one get one?

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u/Kernoriordan 3d ago

You can get this one from near Jitters in Duskwood. Near the big graveyard area. There’s a dead guard on the floor you get it off - it’s got a quest marker

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u/rhaesdaenys 3d ago

The guard isn't always in the same spot. I've found him down the road leading to STV.

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u/internet_underlord 3d ago

Someone else posted earlier about finding the guard on road into the big portal area in the center of duskwood.

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u/InternEven9916 3d ago

Does horde Has its own version?

Will help im undead zones

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u/Scurro 2d ago

Does horde Has its own version?

I see that horde is still an afterthought for content for Forever.

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u/mejjj 3d ago

Any other location for horde?

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u/mymewheart 2d ago

The quest in Duskwood appears to be for Horde and Alliance.

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u/Desperate-Painter152 3d ago

They added a torch? Or was it always there? I don't remember

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u/Jperry12 3d ago

There has always been torches/lanterns but theyre not very common and kinda useless.

They're held in offhand items for casters, earliest one i know of on alliance side is from the ghost quests at the westfall lighthouse

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u/ACoolGuy-Promise 3d ago

Just off the road to STV from Duskwood is a dead guard who has it on him. Looks like a quest.

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u/flippitus_floppitus 3d ago

Alliance/horde only? Or both sides get that quest?

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u/UptownSeries 3d ago

I've been playing WoW off and on for 20 years and I don't actually know if there always was a torch 😅

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u/DonAydz 3d ago

During the very early stages of WoW development, having a torch was actually required to traverse Duskwood. It was so dark so you needed one. They scrapped this idea though before releasing the game, but it seems like it has made a cool return to some degree.

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u/ResQ_ 3d ago

There have been torch-looking items but they never had this much of a glow effect. So they were kinda useless for the purpose of an actual torch.

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u/MuenCheese 3d ago

I saw someone with the blue lantern offhand glowing in the courtyard of undercity and it looked amazing

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u/Dukenstein12 3d ago

For those who want it you can find it off a randomly spawning nightwatch guard. He spawns in one of three spots. Road to the dream grove. Road near STV and in Raven Hill.

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u/MrMacduggan 3d ago

You can also get a torch from a quest for a ghost pirate at the Westfall lighthouse.

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u/mrkoelkast 3d ago

Is this only for level 20 and up? Or can say a level 5 get this aswell?

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u/saxon_hs 3d ago

Already my favourite item ever in 20 years of playing wow.

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u/skyturnedred 3d ago

Six Demon Bag will always be my favourite.

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u/Defiant_Coat_2491 3d ago

I wish there was a nighttime darkness slider ngl. I want it dark DARK. Like nearly almost pitch black dark that I could really see torches from other players light up in the distance, and bonfires, or lamp posts

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u/DIMEBAGLoL 3d ago

Turn your gamma in game to .8 and your contrast to 80+

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u/iamthewhatt 3d ago

Should be a toggle for those settings... because as soon as dawn approaches, your eyes will bleed lol

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u/Jomasjc 2d ago

You could always have a macro to toggle the settings on your bars

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u/DIMEBAGLoL 2d ago

I have a 1000nit oled monitor so I’m very used to the extreme brightness lol blow my shit up 💀

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u/SkipX 3d ago

I feel like that's already the case in some areas. I played in Darkshore yesterday evening and I couldn't see anything at all.

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u/ThijmenDF 3d ago

It does help if you turn your monitor on... /s

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u/SkipX 3d ago

Brother, you know how expensive energy is in current year?

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u/GeorgeMcCrate 3d ago

The darkness is actually one of the features I'm looking forward to the most (not playing the beta). I've always wanted the nights in WoW to be way darker. I just wish the game would get adjusted to it. There should be more light sources on the map, more NPCs should carry torches at night and I would love to have an equipment slot reserved just for lanterns so they don't take up your offhand slot. And the draw distance of players and NPCs would have to be increased or at least that of their lights.

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u/The-Iron-knight 2d ago

You're going to love the last area in the Skyborne island, then. It's darker and creepier than Darkshire.

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u/BallbusterSicko 3d ago

Some places should just be dark for everyone to make it fair

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u/Echo_Origami 1d ago

There should be a cave where you can't see shit but only if you have torches then you can proceed further inside.

This is old school RPG material. I love that you can see something you can't access yet early on the game untl you find the correct key or runes or whatever.

I want WoW to have more of these puzzles scattered about the land. Puzzles that actually take skills to unlock, or skills to find clues to unlock it instead of always running off to WoWhead to figure it all out.

A lot of treasures respawns in the same location. In MoP, you can always find the same weaspon in the exact same location on different toons. It would be better if it was randomly generated.

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u/effervescentEscapade 3d ago

Me too! But then I’m playing on a PvP server and some Undead rogue called xxstabyouxx is gonna gank me relentlessly because he has his gamma set to surface of the sun, ha!

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u/Defiant_Coat_2491 3d ago

You won't see them coming anyway because of stealth? Do you have nameplates turned on? Pretty sure the character names and nameplates would stick out pretty brightly in the dark

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u/Pwnstar6 3d ago

Yeah thats the problem it would be much cooler to have it really dark and not bypass that for pvp...

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u/chaplar 3d ago

Have you checked out Monsters and Memories?

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u/Defiant_Coat_2491 3d ago

Yep I've seen a YouTube video about it before, I'm actually gonna try it out on the early access

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u/TrulyGolden 3d ago

contrast, brightness and gamma in video settings

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u/temporal_gasteropod 3d ago

You want it darker? 

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u/Defiant_Coat_2491 3d ago

Yep just like when Inky Black Potion came out back in Legion when I still played retail WoW but slightly even darker just by a bit, I used to always use that potion whenever it was nighttime and it looked amazing

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u/Flat-Two-789 3d ago

no i want to hide in bush and gank u in the dark of night

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u/bagel-bites 2d ago

I mentioned this in another thread, but I want torches to be crafted with a stick and linen cloth, and lit at campfires, braziers, and a 1hr CD using flint.

Make it last 15 minutes, with an increase to 30 minutes based on a new Survival Profession, and then make it dark as hell in the world at night, or in certain areas like some caves. Being in the dark could also obscure your maps and coordinates.

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u/Capn98 3d ago

Last night was in a guild raid on Duskwood, and the vibes were insane, a bunch of orcs sneaking through the human woods in the dark with heavy rain and just a few torches lighting the way

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u/Danfossie 3d ago

I do wonder how this will work with the world being time synced. People who can only play in the evenings will always be in a dark world.

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u/DevStef 3d ago

Wasn’t it like that in the beginning of WoW. And then they changed it because people complained? Or it was the reason for less darker nights? I vaugely remember something like that.

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u/BusinessSuper1156 3d ago

Trying to kill mobs that spawn at night is a pain lol ask me how i know.

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u/Shintome 3d ago

It only took them forever.

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u/Phreeze83 3d ago

badumm tsss! i wish there was a torch near some Horde starting area too

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u/EaTThiZ 3d ago

For ppl looking for the torch::I remember a post stating that on the way to the green dragon portal central duskwood there is a dead guard on the ground somewhere. Guess you can loot him for the torch.

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u/TheMad_fox 3d ago

The spawn point is random it is also possible to be near jitters or the road leading to STVietnam

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u/askthedonkey 3d ago

In our group of 4 the healer has decided that any time he pulls out the torch its mana break time. It fucking works as a signal with out saying words or typing.

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u/Nosphelem 3d ago

Man I’m so happy they finaly added it to the game. They cooked so well !

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u/Different-Context-84 2d ago

Multi billion dollar company adds useable torch after 20 years.  They cooked so hard. 

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u/xRAEBELx 3d ago

Wait, where did you get the torch?!

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u/Kernoriordan 3d ago

You can get this one from near Jitters in Duskwood. Near the big graveyard area. There’s a dead guard on the floor you get it off - it’s got a quest marker

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u/Claris-chang 3d ago

Lighthouse quest in Westfall.

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u/ProfessorMiserable76 3d ago

No there's a dead night watch guard in dusk wood that gives this toy

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u/hotstove 3d ago

It's not a toy, kid...

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u/testwiese420 3d ago

Why the downvotes? How is the Westfall one different to this?

Maybe we can even use Grayson's Torch + this one.

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u/boredguy12 3d ago

Casters can also just wield their wands for some illumination

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u/Beornwyn 3d ago

What are your contrast and gamma settings?

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u/halusinati 3d ago

Press T for torch

I miss daoc.

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u/Rune_nic 2d ago

Eden is always popping, highly recommend!

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u/Curmudge_Unit 3d ago

Time to start adding +light radius on items

(This is a PoE joke before I get down votes)

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u/StrangeTeaching2861 3d ago

Mmm, this feels like the darkness system in Dark and Darker...this is going to improve immersion a lot!

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u/Tautsu 3d ago

Where do you get a torch? Mentioned it in the reveal and couldn’t find one, even on normal settings night gets dark

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u/Kernoriordan 3d ago

You can get this one from near Jitters in Duskwood. Near the big graveyard area. There’s a dead guard on the floor you get it off - it’s got a quest marker

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u/Imprettystrong 3d ago

What about for horde?

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u/MrMacduggan 3d ago

There's one available from a quest at the Westfall lighthouse. (Horde-friendly!)

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u/Saczuanello 3d ago

I believe there is an NPC in duskwood that can give you a torch and it lasts 5 minutes. But I can be wrong.

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u/Individual-Level9308 3d ago

IM IMMERSSSINNNGGG!!! AGHHH!

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u/SomeoneNotFamous 3d ago

Never seen night time in forever.

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u/Nosleep4uever 3d ago

Honestly, experiencing Duskwood will be 1000% better now. I've even used it at night in other zones and it is amazing. 

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u/According_Zone_8262 3d ago

Takes me back to the good old tibia days where having a torch was necessary in caves otherwise you literally couldnt see anything

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u/pedrooky 3d ago

I'm really having to fight hard the urge to start playing again. This all looks so good.

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u/Jolly-Refuse2232 3d ago

Do you actually have to use torches to be able to see where you're going now?

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u/Imprettystrong 3d ago

I was in echo isles in durotar last night and under the thick canopy of trees in some area was very dark, a torch would have been cool af. They need to add a torch to horde early game asap

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u/effervescentEscapade 3d ago

Hopefully an add-on will be made to adjust gamma settings automatically depending on a preset and the time of day.

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u/SteamingSkad 3d ago

Unless it was purely coincidence, I believe the quest Merrick’s Bow is related to the torch. See my comment on the page: https://www.wowhead.com/forever/quest=96138/merricks-bow#comments:id=6436338

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u/MukBoBuk 3d ago

Always loved this look. There is already a torch wand in the game too that gives off a really small to low radius affect around the character. I used to keep it in my bags just for immersive moments I could bring it out in the dark.

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u/Ok-Internet9433 3d ago

So how you tweaked the settings? What values are u using for gamma or contrast?

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u/Vollwertkost 3d ago

Yes, put Valheim into Wow:F!

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u/M-Leaf 3d ago

Can u get this as horde?

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u/Ubbermann 3d ago

Really really need an easier way to get this.

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u/Flat-Two-789 3d ago

remember when they tried to bait us into thinking the next thing to come was some survival duskwood survival game mode or something, I guess they meant this

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u/Beneficial_Bit8296 3d ago

Does WoWf support hdr?

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u/Pabes-Best 2d ago

yes kinda, there are console commands to turn it on, there is also a mod that gives a UI for adjustment

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u/richard-savana 3d ago

How do you get the torch? Is it a vendor in darkshire?

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u/rr770 3d ago

Which slot do you equip this in? 

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u/MammothGuts 3d ago

The blue from the lanterns is nice too.

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u/pete070597 3d ago

What settings do you use?

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u/Kyralea 3d ago

I can’t wait to walk around Darkshire with a torch. 😃

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u/Fiercededede 3d ago

They could do it like Twilight Princess where you can either place it on your belt buckle to provide hands free light while you travel and fight. Or, you can hold it in your offhand to provide more directional light.

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u/ZeroWashu 3d ago

Meanwhile in parts of the Night Elf starting area I am nearly blinded by the luminescence

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u/EffectiveSwimming136 3d ago

The quest from Westfall Light House has a torch offhand item, it emits a glow just like this torch.

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u/benjiwalla 3d ago

Is the Nightwatch torch available for Horde?

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u/DonnieNJ 2d ago

Oh to go back to the days of needing a light source just to see in Everquest :)

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u/Pineapple-Due 2d ago

Man I can't wait to experience the new duskwood. Trying to stay horde in the beta so I can save some surprises but it's so hard.

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u/Fley 2d ago

QuietHUD is the best for immersion

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u/Nahelys 2d ago

Can horde get one too ?

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u/Moontzypher 2d ago

The fabled torch!!!

This is awesome and will be wild with pvp

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u/GoblinLock 20h ago

Blizzard just make it dark enough that ppl can’t see shit without torches.

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u/Blandula_ 11h ago

SoD Karazhan's vibes!

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u/Mindless-Mulberry404 4h ago

Actually a very cool addition, wonder if you can use it in Kara Crypts?

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u/FeedbackKey2443 3h ago

This reminds me when I added some skyrim mods to add darker nights and weather effects like getting hypothermia from cold. It was fun and made torches useful. The same goes for kettles, pots, tents, arrows, etc.

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u/kaytin911 3d ago

Lmfao ig clickbait titles work on reddit too.

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u/convictedweirdo 3d ago

Don't forget you get a torch off the ghost pirate at the lighthouse in westfall!

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u/Kernoriordan 3d ago

You can get this one from near Jitters in Duskwood. Near the big graveyard area. There’s a dead guard on the floor you get it off - it’s got a quest marker

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u/Gadompis 3d ago

Is this locked to Alliance?

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u/ShadowOfThePastFIN 3d ago

Mind to be careful with that torch..! You don't wanna set any tree on fire..🔥 by accident ofc.. 🤔

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u/seanc1986 3d ago

You can dual-wield torches If you get https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item%3D9386/excavators-brand?utm_source=chatgpt.com . It goes in the main-hand as opposed to all the other torches with are off-hand only.

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u/Turrican64 3d ago

But still no other light effects on a player ilummunates the environment. That's one thing that annoys me the most.

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u/zelnoth 3d ago

Wands do.

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u/_Chonus_ 3d ago

There’s a healing offhand that’s a lantern that also lights up, pretty neat

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u/ProphAussie 3d ago

No flying has done that too — despite all the screeching entitled Karens raging about it, lol

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u/Pussytrees 3d ago

I haven’t seen a single person complain about no flying where did this even come from lmao.

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u/ProphAussie 1d ago

The WoW forums ... There's literally been heaps. lol

I'd wager it's mostly the retail-supremacist players, but they're definitely there.
Just gotta open your eyes. Lmao

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u/noavatar1 3d ago

you sound chronically online

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u/n8otto 3d ago

SCREEEECH!!!!

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u/ProphAussie 1d ago

Why? lol