Can’t insult terrorists by calling them terrorists. Just one guy who wants to kill the other pilot and everyone on board and whoever they hit on the ground and another who would rather not. Tomato tomato.
It's worded that way by news outlets (and the title here was undoubtedly ripped from a news article headline) because "Terrorist" in the US means "has been convicted of the crime of terrorism or was designated a terrorist by the US State Department", and accusing someone of a crime that they were not convicted of is a tort and a crime itself.
People don't generally like going to jail and being bankrupted, so they word news headlines neutrally
It’s how all reputable headlines used to be. I remember getting taught how to write headlines in school. Now, the expectation is to know exactly what happened, immediately. Not saying this is a great example, because I believe it’s been confirmed, but more refuting your general observation
Your point isn’t really appropriate for this scenario though, because calling a stabbing a “confrontation” is a massive downgrade that changes the entire meaning and context of the whole situation
You don’t have to say “terrorist attack” but “confrontation” is a satirical level of downplay
Terrorism is not 100%, though likely given this particular context. Plenty of examples in the world where pilots just suicide because they’re suicidal pricks. Terrorism had political/ideological grounds that are unknown at this point (though likely).
100% attempted hijacking and suicide attempt though.
Everything is a confrontation, but definitely a weak adjective for this case! On the other hand, straight up calling it terrorism without any evidence other than it being an Arab airline would be irresponsible journalism.
We currently only know that there was an attack of the pilot by the co pilot. The only place currently saying terrorism is the country known for lying, propaganda, and committing tons of terrorism (Isreal)
Deliberately removing the dates from all these headlines so that people wouldn’t realise they were written immediately after the first information that there’s something wrong, were published? In other words, when hardly anything else was known yet.
It would take a matter of seconds to find more recent news to this topic on these websites, all of which also refer to an "attempted terrorist attack".
You zionists really can't help yourselves. You really have to try to exploit every situation to try to downplay Israel's genocide even when the situation has nothing to do with it.
Let me add some context. Pilot was from Oman and flights to Israel STRICTLY prohibit Omani citizens from flying planes to Israel but he somehow got in.
No it isn’t. Terrorism is trying to effect political change through violent acts that deliberately target civilians. One copilot going crazy (if that’s what happened) and stabbing the pilot would not constitute terrorism.
Ahhh but they didn’t say Jews, they said Israel didn’t they?
I ask this question with genuine curiosity, but will the Jewish people ever be independent from the actions of the individuals who run the state of Israel? Or are they just doomed to be perpetually bound in a suicide pact together forever
Pretty convenient though that people are so quick to blame them for anything that ever goes wrong. Almost like they’re being used as a scapegoat or something.
Oh right, right, right. There’s definitely no connection between baselessly blaming Israel for anything that ever goes wrong and baselessly blaming Jews for anything that ever goes wrong. Thanks for correcting me on that.
He's going to continue to argue in bad faith, ignoring anything that's actually being said and putting words in anyone's mouth that isn't Pro-Israel in this genocide. At no point did I mention "blaming Jews" for anything.
In fact it pretty clearly implies that it's wrong to lump Jewish people with the atrocities that Zionist Israelis are committing and supporting (the example of being against Islamic terrorist groups while still being able to love your Muslim neighbors). He's putting words in my mouths.
No point in attempting to make a reasonable argument, complete waste of time.
I hope you're condemning the genocide of innocent Palestinians committed by the Israeli government with the same vigor as you are criticizing blatant Holocaust denial. Anything else would simply be hypocritical.
Oh, now you’re saying he has jet fuel - are you implying he can melt steel beams? And buckaroo - are you claiming the Cowboys are responsible for this now? Are you claiming that Jerry Jones backed this? Perhaps covering up for Robert Kraft cancelling Macklemore over Palestine?
It all comes full circle with you, huh?
Actually, that is a little too convenient. Say no more, you’ve convinced me
Op asked why it was getting down voted, I was just sharing that narrative being circulated to imply that it was likely those people down voting the post because of the title, sorry if that rubbed you the wrong way 🤷
I've now seen 2 different people say they've seen this theory. The first said it was all over the Macklemore sub, and you're saying you've seen it from right wing sources. Curious though if you saw an article, or was it in a right wing sub, or what?
I suspect it's a bot campaign but I need more info to try to make sense of why/who is likely directing the bot activity, if it is happening.
There is another video where you can audible hear the wind increasing to pretty insane levels as the planes plummets from about 30 000 feet to 15 thousand feet. It was violent enough to tear out chunks of the rudder and vertical stabilizer.
You’re right. Next time we’ll have a pov from the pilot where he was stabbed, and then he’ll stumble out into the aisle for everyone to see. They’ll all panic and just as it’s setting in for everyone, all their stuff flies up to the ceiling as they start to plummet to their presumed death. The screams will make anyone remove headphones and turn the volume down.
Sometimes things happen in this world that don’t need to have a visual companion to be able to understand what is happening. Have some empathy for those onboard and be thankful it wasn’t you, and you need to rely on a video to get any visual of what is happening.
This is Reddit.
You can't acknowledge Islamic terrorism on Reddit... It does not exist, if it does exist then it's a false flag by the United States or Israel and then if it's undeniable that Islamic terrorests are behind it, its justified because they have no choice due to Western interference in their affairs.
Imagine the leftist outrage if it were an Israeli pilot trying to "allegedly" crash a plane in Dubai, instead of the other way round. It would definitely not be a "confrontation" then.
Hopefully they'll be charged with reckless endangerment or similar. That's insane.
ETA * the post didn't make it clear this was an attempted highjacking. This is the first I've seen anything about it. The video gave no context about the altercation.
Yeah, it really does read like just an irresponsible argument between pilots that led to some negligence, right?
That’s exactly what I thought and the actual details were just complete whiplash
At that level is misdirection, why even bother reporting at all? If a serious news outlet starts saying the earth is flat, how long do we keep listening?
Considering there's no context apart from the title and a video in the cabin. You don't know if it's one pilot intentionally trying to down the plane, or if the two pilots leaned on the yolk or throttle. But go off I guess.
No no, I get to call you stupid here because you didn’t realize that the title very clearly misrepresents what happened and you have to already know or get the info from a different article to find out
It happened over two minutes. This is simply not true. Once the nose is pointed down, as long as it is a consistent decent over two minutes, you’ll be firmly planted on the ground. They weren’t pulling a parabolic maneuver.
if the attitude is sufficiently nose down to achieve nearly 9000ft/min descent rate you will fall over and experience G-forces because the aircraft is accelerating. It'd be like trying to stand ontop of a car while the driver puts their foot down.
G-force is an effect of acceleration on a body not the change in pitch attitude.
I'm also sceptical it happened quite that fast as 8500ft/min at cruise speed sustained for 2 full minutes would risk critically overspeeding the airframe. The video doesn't show any evidence of that, you'd hear increased wind noise and buffeting.
I suspect this is just overdramatic reporting of an expedited decent related to the diversion.
By that same logic it's a hard pill to swallow that German Nazis weren't all bad, since some did good things. Bad people can do good things and good people can do bsd things. Looking at it through a microcosm lense solves nothing.
Those people, regardless of race or nationality, helped saving people and that's good.
eh I still think the organized military bombing hospitals/schools and destroying crops to also starve those people is worse. tough pill to swallow for the average idiot. the nationality of the passengers doesn't really factor into it I feel
My theory is, the target would be some populated area in Israel. The Saudi airport, where they did the emergency landing is in Northwestern Saudi Arabia, very close to the Jordanian border, and not that far away from Israel as well. Technically the target could also be some Jordanian urban area, but it seems unlikely unless that Oman copilot has some particular beef with Jordan.
what are you talking about you clearly see people going to the front of the plane.
what you expect small kids and old ladys to storm the cabin! if you might die filming wont lower your chances of survival in a plane crash lmao
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u/Suitable_Matter_9427 21h ago
“Confrontation between pilots” is a hell of a euphemism for “terrorist pilot tries to hijack plane and crash it”