r/interestingasfuck • • 18h ago

Everyone is too happy around this guy

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u/mastershake04 18h ago

Why does every building in NK seem to be designed as a liminal space? Something about the colors and lighting, and lack of windows maybe? Even with a room full of people it gives me that weird feeling.

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u/zippazappadoo 17h ago

Because it's all fake. The spaces you see in videos of NK are all meant for propaganda only. Never used otherwise. They don't show the other 99.9999% of the country which exists as a dilapidated time capsule from the 1950s where everyone else lives.

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u/BornChef3439 12h ago

Thats nonsense. North Korea is a lot of bad things but they genuinely do do quite well at sports at least in Asia because they use the old soviet system when it comes to training athletes so the facilities are absolutely real and used

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u/Slagroomspuit 8h ago

And even if they didn't, it's not like that regime is incapable of building what is basically little more than a high school gym. I've been to a bigger gym than this with significantly more spectator seating in a 10k Spanish town in bumfuck nowhere.

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u/kwonza 10h ago

People talking out of their ass while knowing next to nothing about North Korea is one of the pillars of Reddit.

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u/transitfreedom 9h ago

They love being confident in ignorance

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u/iameveryoneelse 6h ago

>the old Soviet system when it comes to training athletes

You mean steroids?

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u/Carrman099 16h ago

So a nation where everything is dilapidated and 50s era is able to create ICBMs and Nuclear weapons?

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u/remnault 16h ago

When they put all the budget of the country towards it and ignore all other stuff, yeah kinda.

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u/is0chr0nic 12h ago

You… are aware nuclear weapons were created and used before the 1950’s, right?

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u/Carrman099 12h ago

Atomic weapons and not ICBMs

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u/Ninenails98 8h ago

First ICBM was tested in 1957

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u/zippazappadoo 16h ago

With technology given to them and all of their resources going only to their military at the detriment of their people, yes.

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u/Carrman099 14h ago

But their people are the ones who staff the military?

30% of North Korea’s population serves in the military, wouldn’t it make sense to ensure that those people who staff and populate your military and who are the basis of your power are physically fit and have decent morale?

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u/razorbacks3129 14h ago

No because of the IBCMs and nukes…

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u/Carrman099 14h ago

But you have to have people to maintain and develop and manufacture those ICBMs and Nukes. My point is that if people want to take North Korea seriously as a threat then they need to stop treating it as if it is a house of cards ready to topple at any moment.

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u/bootsmadeforkicking 12h ago

You should read up about it, but North Korea is propped up by China and Russia. It's how they got military technologies, because both China and Russia gain an apparent nuclear ally. Their military is chronically underfed, as the rest of their population. North Kore barely imports anything apart from these 2 countries (most countries refuse to send aid anyways, but they refuse it) and they haven't produced enough food to feed their entire population since the 1990s. We cannot know the accurate numbers, but it's estimated that millions have died of famine. Being in the military, much like Israel and Russia, isn't a choice. There are no special measures to keep you happy, if you're not, the labour and concentration camps are right there. They are actively encouraged to snitch on each other from the youngest age about things like "My classmate forgot to salute the picture of the Great Leader today", therefore there is not "group" moral to be expected, divide and conquer is at the root of their dictatorship.

Whilst unpredictable and lying prideful countries are always dangerous (e.g. The Soviets with Chernobyl) North Korea's army by itself isn't really a threat. They wouldn't last a week against any developed country's full military. They do not have resources to pull from in case of emergency either.

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u/Carrman099 12h ago

Do you have any source recommendations to read?

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u/bootsmadeforkicking 12h ago

Yes I do, I wrote several papers on the subject in University for my major.

I won't list you my whole bibliography, but you should simply read "Escape from Camp 14" by Shin Dong-huyk, a North Korean defector. His experience graphically exposes everything I discussed, from a civilian perspective. Some facts about his timeline were altered by him due to shame, but it has been fact-checked and ia considered accurate by Amnesty International and other large human rights organizations.

Other than that, here's some peer reviewed essays and research papers for ya:

https://www.hrnk.org/documentations/is-there-a-famine-in-north-korea/# (Famine report from Human Rights Watch)

https://www.nkhiddengulag.org/blog/the-arduous-march-and-north-koreas-denial-of-the-right-to-food

https://www.uscc.gov/sites/default/files/2022-01/China-North_Korea_Strategic_Rift.pdf (An article about the China-North Korea alliance implications for the US)

https://doi.org/10.1080/00396338.2013.784467 (China, North Korea and the Spread of Nuclear Weapons)

Start there and let me know how you find it instead of downvoting me to be petty.

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u/razorbacks3129 8h ago

Well then just say that my guy

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u/NosePicklePicker 13h ago

Don’t need to waste any effort on Quality of life infrastructure when you can spend them on researching nukes instead 

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u/Carrman099 13h ago

What is this a civ game? Who do you think is researching, manufacturing, maintaining, guarding, designing, and building those nukes?

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u/Ninenails98 8h ago

ICBMs and nukes have been around for several decades now. Just because a country has them doesn’t make the country advanced. Just look at India and Pakistan. Majority of their countries live in absolute poverty but they have nukes