r/pcmasterrace • u/SirHomoLiberus • 6h ago
Discussion Stop Killing the Internet is a Stop Killing Games movement. If you're a EU citizen make your voice be heard. EU Kids Safety Act must be stopped.
https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/initiatives/details/2026/000011_en#statements-table287
u/RoyalWe666 6h ago
If this doesn't get swatted down by the EU's parliament or court, the whole Union is worse than worthless. Absolute privacy nightmare and absurdly anti-consumer.
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u/Extreme996 RTX 4070 Ti Super | Ryzen 7 9800X3D |32GB DDR5 6000mhz 4h ago
They will push it until it will be accepted. Chat Control failed again day or two days ago and they will discuss it again on november.
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u/DavidHolandaOne 2h ago
It'd be cool if they have blacklist for all these terrible internet bills to avoid passing
too bad it doesn't exist
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u/Marek_Marianowicz PC Master Race 5h ago
Not so long ago, people laughed at China for implementing similar measures. Now the EU, the UK and the USA are attempting to do the same. You could argue that these regulations are not as strict, but wait seven to five years for an even stricter version to be passed.
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u/fat_pokemon 2h ago
That's the thing that gets me. Other goverments bitched about china's control, but in reality they wernt's angry, or even hateful. They were jealous...
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u/Mission-Fig6621 1h ago
The problem is that some actors are using privacy rules to attack EU freely, elections interference, spam bots farms, you name it. Of course it is not about kids. politician don’t give a shit about kids in a no election year
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u/voxelbrew_sh 6h ago
how long until pirate software chimes in and tells us all in his second-puberty voice how this is misleading and wrong?
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u/Opposite_Carry_4920 4h ago edited 2h ago
Who keeps starting these? You guys have GOT to kick those fucks out of office man. Every year they are trying to ram shit like this in and chat control. The EU is supposed to protect the world from this kind of stupidity.
Edit: as an American I know, glass houses and all that.
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u/Pocok5 Ryzen 7 5800X3D - AMD RX9070XT - 32GB DDR4-2933 1h ago edited 1h ago
It is a bunch of unelected lobbyist groups exercising leverage largely by bribing the council of the EU and the Commission to act against the will of the Parliament.
Essentially the power to propose legislation sits with the ministers delegated from the national governments (so, usually not directly elected and you need to blast the whole ass party out of your country's government if you are unhappy with one minister's policies) and tends to be more secretive about internal votes. The only public-facing part where the average Joe can interact with the system in practice is the Parliament, which can only vote on the slop presented to it and is open to ratfucking (see: chatcontrol extension passing by one third of the vote earlier).
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u/redHEP88 GTX 1060 3GB / i7 8700 / 16GB ram 5h ago
Dont say stopped, say changed. Stopped will only get others more defensive, because at face value, who doesnt want eu kids to be safe. Changed would then imply theres only parts of it wrong
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u/SanargHD Desktop 5h ago
They are arguing for digital age and ID verification (or at least acknowledge that it will come). The petition is about making sure that those verification systems are actually secure and data minimizing and only used for legitimate purposes. They are essentially arguing for the best case implementation of the EUDI wallet.
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u/Edubbs2008 Windows Enthusiast 6h ago
This is why Digital Sovereignty was a lie, it’s to replace American-made goods with low effort Euro-shit that ends up being a trap to can the Internet.
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u/Mysterious-Cell-2473 3h ago
This doesn't work. EU is not legal entity or democratic one. Last time it took millions signatures and long transparent campaign, which was erased by ONE meeting with Ubisoft behind CLOSED DOORS!
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u/StaticSystemShock 4h ago
I'm tired boss. Corporate political fucks are paid to relentlessly push this shit and we're suppose to "fight" this in our free time. I can't anymore. Also this shit will pass either way because that is the will of the rich. To have total and absolute control over us even online. Only place where they couldn't up till now. This is a point where internet dies.
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u/Historical-Mall11 1h ago
I imagine a bright future, where you need your ID to access the internet, which is 99% AI slop, from your computer, that cost 70 trillion. Way to go, psychopaths.
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u/Sorry_Community235 R7 2700/1060 6GB/32 GB DDR4 1h ago
Haha, "your" computer, lol. You gonna have to rent a device that connects you to your subscription-based PC-as-a-service cloud.
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u/tetsuzankou 5h ago
i feel bad for fellow 3rd worlders that went to Europe seeking 1st QoL only to see the EU speedrun turning Europe into the same shithole they left. Ironically you might be better off living in the middle east.
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u/ChefCurryYumYum 1h ago
It appears to be true no matter which democracy you are in, the more they say something is to protect children the more it is stripping your rights away.
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u/sharkheal00 2h ago
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u/SirHomoLiberus 2h ago
So people...if you didn't sign that petition take a look at the consequences of just standing still and do nothing. Ty for posting this.
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u/sharkheal00 2h ago
Really liked it in Ross video, it makes immediately clear how heavy the subject is even to those who would take a look and continue scrolling
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u/No-Pomegranate-69 R7-9800X3D | RTX 5080 | 64GB DDR5 | 2x 4TB M.2 26m ago
Soo servers all around the world will go offline because they are running an illegal linux then right? Right?
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u/ScaleWorth3841 5h ago
I'm signing but have a really bad feeling. We're in such a minority and outgunned that we barely even scratch the surface.
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u/madmagic008 R7 7800x3D | RTX 4080 suprim x | 32GB DDR5 6400Mhz 2h ago
I fully support this but I find it a bit ironic that you need to sign one of these petitions with all your personal details and ID
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u/Lazy-Good1433 55m ago
Why is west society willing to end democracy so easily, I mean it was never this bad lobbied to be pushing forward 10-15 years ago so why are all the governments being EU, USA, CANADA, AUSTRALIA and others acting within such a short time frame to get these legal hot potatoes passed knowing it to upset public rights of the individual and consumer which is a part of what west democracies used to protect?
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u/techtimee 50m ago
Why does this matter? The EU is full of ethical, human rights loving, college educated, compassionate, privacy loving politicians. Who cares if a bill comes up? They'll just reject it.
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u/DiesIraeConventum 6h ago
You think this is bad?
Wait and see what these guys gonna do if they get their way with federalization of the EU.
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u/Druidgr-93 1h ago
After what happened to SKG I'm done. I'm disappointed and honestly when reddit will ask for ID I'll just stop log in.
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u/Octoclops8 6h ago
I don't necessarily think we should put game companies on the hook for maintaining their servers after 10 years of the game being launched. However I do think after 5 - 8 years they should not be able to sue anyone for setting up a private server. And by 10 they no longer need to host official ones.
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u/AtomicTEM 6h ago
Nobody is asking that.
We are asking that now on, new games should have a End of Life plan, make it clear to the cosumer how long they plan to support the game.2
u/Octoclops8 5h ago
That makes sense.
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u/Garr_Incorporated 5h ago
I believe one of the asks is to give the ability to make the game playable after the support for it has ended. Say, an online game would be able to set up community servers (with the provided tools to make it natively possible), or by removing features that need constant upkeep while keeping the rest active.
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u/Sorry_Community235 R7 2700/1060 6GB/32 GB DDR4 1h ago
wrong initiative. this is about online age verification...
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u/kmate1357 4h ago
Unpopular opninion: The romanticized anonym internet concept is not good thing actually. There are contents that HAVE TO BE age limited, and there are a lot of cases where people abuse the anonimity, not to mention actual countries (e.g.: russian propaganda).
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u/TheGracefulCrane 5070TI | 9800X3D 5h ago
oh shit this is definitely gonna pass if the stop killing games people are tryna stop it those dudes have had zero success so far
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u/fiero-fire 5h ago
Why are politicians world wide pulling the think of the children schtick? They are hiding behind children to steal any semblance of privacy we have, it's utter bullshit