r/politics • u/Aggravating_Money992 • 14d ago
Possible Paywall Trump Tells North Carolina Hurricane Relief Depends on Midterm Outcome
https://newrepublic.com/post/215533/donald-trump-north-carolina-hurricane-relief-funds-midterms11.3k
u/Motor-Log-6213 Canada 14d ago
There you go North Carolinians. He doesn't care about you or your lives! Vote blue in November!
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u/lactose_cow 14d ago
People die with inadequate disaster relief. He's threatening to have them killed for political gain. The president is a fucking terrorist and I'm supposed to clock into work like this country isn't dead?
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u/cakeorcake 14d ago
Oh yeah! Clock into work, don’t mention any of this, and act like everything’s normal and great.
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u/linuxsysacc 14d ago edited 14d ago
And don't you dare show up late; a convicted pedophile and rapist can be president, but a loafer(it really was an unexpected problem) doesn't deserve food or healthcare.
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u/OhioGoblin43 14d ago
Unlike us, a brain-dead geriatric senator can show up 94 days late for work, collecting pay the entire time and show up unable to perform their duties
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u/ChefChopNSlice Ohio 13d ago
Not only is he getting that super special treatment, but he consistently votes to make sure you can’t.
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u/AltruisticHopes 13d ago
He is one of the best examples of why the US is completely fucked. The idea that the person chosen to represent their state’s residents, debate bills and provide oversight to the executive branch can barely speak or answer questions is beyond ludicrous.
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u/Faux-Foe 14d ago
Don’t Look Up.
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u/ragingclaw Montana 14d ago
A lot of people are strangely in favor of the jobs the comet will provide.
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u/JustinStraughan 14d ago
And remember, you can be punished or fired for calling this out. Remember, you aren’t allowed to be unprofessional.
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u/Laringar North Carolina 14d ago
Especially in NC, the #52 state/territory in the US for worker rights.
Alabama has better worker protections than we do.
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u/PolarBailey_ 13d ago
Alabama has better worker protections than we do.
well yeah you gotta look out for family.
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u/mrw1986 13d ago
This country is so fucking depressing. Hell, the whole world is going to shit because a few wealthy assholes. Far-right groups all over the world are starting to see a resurgence. I was really hoping my children wouldn't have to live through this shit, but here we are. I have to wake up every day, unemployed, on the verge of losing everything with no real recourse.
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u/thegoodnamesrgone123 14d ago
I mean your Fox News loving coworker is just going to say "He didn't mean that!" You should see how hard they are pushing Ai on there
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u/Polantaris Illinois 14d ago
It's such a sign of how far gone people are that they seriously make those claims today. 9-10 years ago, I didn't believe it but I could, theoretically, see why others might. But we have so, so, so many examples of him saying X, and then doing the polar opposite, that the only way you can deny it is to deny reality itself. Which is what they have done.
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u/smooth-as-mud 14d ago
This is how I’ve felt every day since the pandemic, at least when 9/11 happened we all went home early.
It’s becoming increasingly hard to understand what the point is, working 40 hours a week to be my landlord’s primary source of income, to work hard and live a life that sucks in comparison to people who are simply hot on tv or online. The death of the middle class is such a motivation killer.
I just want a small house and a decent holiday every summer, enough money that bills aren’t stressful, and enough set aside to take my wife out at the end of the week, but instead we’ve decided that some people should just work forever and barely have anything and other people should barely do anything and get to live in permanent vacation mode.
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u/goteed 14d ago
This right here is the problem. I'm an old guy, I just turned 60. I busted my ass for years, was able to buy a house and live a decent life. And I did that on a middle class income along with my wife. But honestly I was probably the last generation to do that.
My son is a millennial along with his wife. They both have decent jobs, she has a masters degree. And if it wasn't for us helping out, they wouldn't have shit. They graduated high school into a world of bankers crashing the whole fucking thing in 2008. They finally got back on their feet only to have COVID kick their ass. And while the bakers got bail outs and CEO's got bonuses they got stagnant wages and increasing cost of living.
You'll hear people my age bitch that "These young people don't want to work!!" I say fuck that, what do they have to work for? The deal that was made with me by the capitalists no longer exist for the youth. Theirs no chance at home ownership. The ones that went to college are strapped with a house payment worth of debt because of astronomical tuition cost, and now they're staring down the barrel of AI replacing them anyways.
They're not lazy, they just don't give a fuck. And they have every reason to have that attitude.
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u/JohnGillnitz 13d ago
It should be noted that previous attempts at full blown authoritarianism didn't have armed AI controlled robots to subjugate the masses. We always assumed Skynet would be controlling the machines that fight against humanity. Nope. Just other asshole humans.
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u/goteed 13d ago
This really is the scary part. In the last gilded age the bastards still needed the workers labor to fill their pockets. The workers had leverage because of that. But if they replace our labor with AI and robotics, we’re truly cooked!!!
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u/aliquotoculos America 14d ago
Nah, I give a fuck.
I'm just also stuck in perpetual severe burnout, to the degree where I entertain not existing anymore on a nearly daily basis because the idea of getting rest now looks like its only possible after death. My body hurts, my back hurts, I can't seem to find doctors that care because I guess I'm 'too young.' Every waking hour that I have is dedicated to working, learning, cooking, cleaning, then finally sleeping. If I take on a hobby to do in my miniscule amount of free time, everyone asks me how I'm going to monetize it -- even myself, these days. Everyone, everyone, wants more from me. More money, more sweat, more thinking, more learning, more of my information, more of my attention. Sell me a half broken product and a subscription model to fix it.
Everything that I can't afford to buy anymore is another task I have to do myself. Every time things start to look up, the rug gets pulled out from under my feet. Every. Single. Time. And every time, the fall gets harder and harder. I don't have family. I don't have that safety net. Most of them are dead and the rest are awful human beings who also don't have shit to their names.
Meanwhile I am still desperately wondering where the hell community went, how the hell I am supposed to talk to neighbors that have no interest in it or are downright hostile. No clubs, no groups, no spaces left to just genuinely 'find your people' and get a break. No one wants to talk about shallow BS but no one wants to talk about bigger BS either. I put every single fuck I can muster into every damn day but nothing pays back the dividends.
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u/SpleenBender Illinois 14d ago
I'm tired of this shit, too. WTAF IS GOING ON. No neighborly neighbors here either!
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u/dbrwhat 13d ago
A big factor is "Mean World Syndrome" where mass media has made Americans believe that the world is way more dangerous and crime riddled than it really is.
Also people are so strapped for resources now, people feel like they're in survival mode so they get greedy and isolate. Remember COVID when everybody was fighting for necessities like toilet paper? The supply shortages never really ended.
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u/SammySoapsuds Minnesota 14d ago
You have no idea how happy it makes me to see people of your generation who understand how heavily the deck is stacked against millennials and younger gens.
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u/Mcnugget84 Indiana 14d ago
I’m in my 40’s with twins in middle school.
I’m not a doomer but this shit is fucked up.
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u/F1nnycar 14d ago
I’m ten years older than you and agree - except we decided long ago not to reproduce.
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u/Weekly-Role-1132 14d ago
Thank you! It's impossible to get ahead. My husband has a VERY good job. If I put his base salary on paper most people would tell me to go kick rocks. But we are constantly getting slammed with monumental events that keep pushing us down. Plus the increase in cost of life and insurance ripping everyone off. I had my first kid and with amazing health insurance and a natural birth is cost us $5k. 3 years later when our second came it was the exact same scenario except I only stayed one night this time and we were slapped with a $22k bill. It feels like everyone is trying to keep the middle class from getting any gain. Working 70hours a week just to scrape by is insane. We travel a lot (part of my job and grandparents are generous). The work life balance is so much better almost everywhere we go outside of the country. The food is better quality too and people are healthier. What are we doing here?
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u/jimlahey420 13d ago
I've stopped having this conversation with my parents because it just ends in shouting. So many older Gen X and boomers just refuse to believe that things aren't worse for their kids. They're pretty liberal but still view America as this infallible thing that will always somehow continue being great despite obvious evidence to the contrary.
I'm an elder millennial who grew up in a house where only my dad worked full time and we were able to live the upper middle class American dream with all the fixings. Meanwhile my wife and I struggle to even do half of what I had as a kid on two full-time salaries that are more than double the take-home my parents had on a single income.
The "American Dream" woke up in a cold sweat a long time ago.
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u/Typhus_black 14d ago
It’s called neo-feudalism, a few people/groups own everything and you rent from them to scrape out a subsistence life while they dip their nuts in caviar on a yacht.
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u/Azuras_Star8 14d ago edited 14d ago
My high school civics and america. history teacher back in the late 90s said feudalism was coming back. We are but serfs to the lords. But instead of giving our grain, we give our money.
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u/CategoryZestyclose91 14d ago
My political science professor in 2002 said that corporations were going to be the death of America.
My man was not wrong.
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u/Kind_Following_5220 14d ago
One of my economics professor back in the late 90s said that the power would swing so far that their would be a time where the people rose up. He predicted a French style revolution. You can see it starting with the pushback on data centers and health insurers. We'll see if they can get enough flock cameras, drones, and robot death machines up and running first. It may be too late already.
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u/Flashy-Ingenuity-182 14d ago
I mean fuck Karl Marx called ALL of this back in the 1800s.
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u/yjbtoss 13d ago
Nope. Remember Jefferson, in that now infamous letter to his friend, 1816, warned of corporate power/commercialization Marx wasn't even born yet.
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u/ideologyunderstander 13d ago
And Adam Smith wrote, before Marx, about how landlords love to leech off the labor of others
It's almost like knowledge builds on itself or something, in addition to the knowledge and language necessary to describe and analyze capitalism and its effects on society can only happen as it develops.
almost like some sort of dialectical process or something
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u/RockAtlasCanus 14d ago
I have theorized for years that there is an intentionally struck balance at play. If too many people slip too far below the line where we feel we may be able make it one day, there will be problems. It’s like that Geico commercial where the guy has a dollar on the end of a fishing pole and he’s taunting “oh you almost got it”.
COVID era BLM protests are a great example. A lot of the turnout was the confluence of a lot of pissed off people who also had time on their hands.
They keep us (the working class broadly speaking) right on the edge of being stable & comfortable. Honey don’t fuck up now, we’re so close to making it! But that has been sliding more and more each year. I think we are getting closer to that balance finally skewing enough for people en masse to say “you know what, fuck this.”
I’m not throwing Molotov cocktails right because I’ve worked too damn hard to throw away the little success I’ve carved out but ask me again when/if that success is taken from me.
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u/CategoryZestyclose91 14d ago
Historically, when a society reaches a point where the wealth inequality is so high, and the lower class is so oppressed, revolution occurs.
There is a very distinct tipping point. We are rapidly approaching it.
These revolutions never work out for the ruling class.
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u/Sure-Distance-7434 14d ago
It often doesn't work out for working class either, see: Russia.
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u/jkman61494 14d ago
Yup. And we are just the spear tip. It’s coming for Europe too. The era of western democracy is coming to an end that basically started with 9/11 permanently rattling the U.S., unchecked capitalism and social media reprogramming human brains that the feudal lords are the good guys
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u/SuperSilverback 14d ago
It started before 9/11. Nixon tied our health coverage to employment. Reagan gave us tax cuts for the wealthy with the promise it would trickle down. Every Republican administration after did the same thing creating more and more wealth inequality and huge budget deficits. The middle class has been on the chopping block for decades, it's just taken time for the impact to come into focus. There is a class war and we're losing.
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u/HotDogFingers01 14d ago
It's not even much of a political gain. He's already president, he's not running. He just doesn't want the possibility of checks on his power.
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u/Obfuscious Texas 14d ago
Hurricane Katrina was a multifaceted failure and a terrible hurricane. The immediate impact of the event was devastating.
Not even addressing the existing systemic inequities that added to the situation, the response was political and racial. The amount of unnecessary deaths, displacement, and (what most only seems to care about when it’s the right people) human trafficking that was a direct consequence of the inept response to this disaster is something we clearly haven’t learned from.
Starkly we’re in the same situation as 2005. FEMA is gutted because of war and political will comes with a price tag. The worst part about now is that the political gain is a weapon now. Who is going to die without FEMA aid in the event of a natural disaster?
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u/ibullywildlife 14d ago
"My country is full of lies. We're all going to die, and die like flies."
-- Nina Simone, 1965
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u/heapinhelpin1979 14d ago
Even if they vote for him there will be another random reason he doesn’t help
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u/HavingNotAttained 14d ago
To be fair, the coup succeeded at noon on January 20, 2025
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u/Pokerhobo 14d ago
He doesn't see them as people. All Trump cares about is staying in power to not face consequences and continue to line his pockets.
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u/Choochoo1147 14d ago
What’s insane to me is that his side claims to be patriots. I’m sorry, but you don’t love America if you want half of all Americans to die.
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u/mr_evilweed 14d ago
You don't understand how conservatives think. They are not motivated by having a government that wants to help them. They are motivated by having a government that hurts the people they want to hurt.
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u/LogensTenthFinger 14d ago edited 14d ago
I'll never understand why the left doesn't get this. Maybe it's because I actually used to be a conservative and moved in these circles, but the left seems willfully blind to how much conservatives hate them.
Leftist thinking as they talk to a conservative: "Gosh how can I make them understand this policy is mutually beneficial. They'll get healthcare and pay less money, it seems so obvious! Maybe they're just anxious about change, but they should see our healthcare system is already failing them. Maybe I need to appeal more to their Christian faith, helping others is a core tenet of what Jesus taught."
The thoughts of the Conservative they're talking to: "I want to kill you. I want to kill you. I want to kill you. I want to kill you. I want to kill you. I want to kill you. I want to kill you."
They treated Kyle Rittenhouse like a conquering war hero because he shot people they didn't like politically. They were celebrating him before they even knew his name because he shot BLM protestors. They openly pass laws about running e people over who are protesting. WTF does everyone think that is about?
They literally shouted to shoot Democrats at CPAC to cheers and laughter. Wake up
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u/Bendo410 14d ago
The saddest part of it is, conservatives within a family can hate their own liberal family members when the liberal ones just want a better life for all.
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u/TRexAstronaut 14d ago
Raising hand as the black liberal sheep. They literally left me for death when I was ill.
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u/No-Relation5965 14d ago
Did you have to ask a friend for help? What happened? I hope you’re okay now! My husband is a triple Trump voter and was severely neglectful of me when I was very ill (four times, four separate illnesses). It’s caused me a lot of anxiety because he tries to make up for it but I’m not sure I will ever look at him the same way or truly forgive him.
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u/Material_Echidna_854 14d ago
Your husband voted for trump 3 times and abandoned you four times when you were very ill?
The man doesnt sound like husband material.
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u/Bendo410 14d ago
7 words in (or 6 and a number ) makes him not sound like a good husband. Anyone who voted for a man who was giddy about women losing control over their body is a pos
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u/TRexAstronaut 14d ago
I clawed my way out. I was so ill for so long that I had no friends that lived near me, so I very slowly and deliberately crawled through broken glass to safety. Got an apartment. Lived off of credit cards. Thankfully my mother passed quickly after she abandoned me so I had life insurance to live off of while I went through the ordeal of getting a correct diagnosis and life saving surgery. I'm okay now but it's been years of mental and physical therapy to get me to a place where I feel peace and I'm not in bone breaking pain the majority of the time. I don't speak with my family. They still cast me as a hypocondriac and liar to anyone who will listen. I would have died if I didnt become my own hero. I had to have three major surgeries. I hope you find your way to people who care for you in the same way you care for them.
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u/Bendo410 14d ago
Same , I speak from experience, and my horrible narcissistic conservative father has only gotten worse since my mother’s passing in July.
He made it sound like I abandoned my mother in her obituary, despite a year and a half ago my father threatened to shoot me and my wife (fiancé at the time) because of our feelings on the dumbest man in America. He separated her from so much of her own family in her last year, and now he’s still talking shit on social media so much I had to get an order of no contact that a judge granted just from seeing those two incidents. It does get better , but it’s hell getting there
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u/theVoidWatches Pennsylvania 14d ago
A lot of people - across the entire political spectrum - have trouble conceptualizing that people might not reason in approximately the same ways as them. They can understand that someone might make a different decision due to being in a different situation or having different information, but they assume that they're the median person and pretty much everyone would be like them, given the same circumstances.
So, this is where you get progressives who think they if we can just get conservatives to see the merits of progressive ideas, they'll happen; liberals who think that if they reach out, they can compromise; conservatives who lie and cheat and think the other side is doing all the same things and just better at hiding it...
It's an issue I have too, if I'm being honest with myself.
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u/Blugreysky 14d ago
They don't respect collaboration, they respect authority. As soon as you say, "How do you feel about this," you've lost them. They aren't dumb, they know education and healthcare are good for them, but it matters to them that you follow the "chain of command," not some mamby pamby sharing circle.
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u/Vyzantinist 13d ago
They don't respect collaboration, they respect authority.
This is, in part, why conservatives are so vehemently opposed to international cooperation and multinational organizations like the UN and NATO.
In conservative world might makes right. They project on to the nation, in terms of international relations, how they view the ideal life for themselves - the US should be able to act as it pleases without consequence or consideration for others. We are the 'strongest', after all, so we should get to do whatever we want. We don't need consideration for other countries because consideration is for the weak.
Conservatives don't want cooperation and alliances because that implies parity of a kind. Instead they want vassals, and the freedumb to bully other countries until they submit to our demands.
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u/CrippleSlap Canada 14d ago
the left seems willfully blind to how much conservatives hate them.
Why are Conservatives so hateful in the first place?
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u/Jack__Squat 14d ago
They are indoctrinated to believe liberals are their enemy. Liberals are trying to take their freedom, their guns, their land, their money, etc. They are taught to be outraged and hateful and shielded from any sort of critical thinking that might lead them to believe otherwise. It's why conservatives hate education.
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u/Leucastic_Leopard 14d ago
Because they don't like it when someone disrupts the "pecking order", which has them on top and everyone else beneath them
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u/Vyzantinist 13d ago
Yes, the conservative worldview is fundamentally hierarchical. There must always be a ruling class of elites who deserve their wealth, status, and privilege; there must always be an underclass who deserve nothing but poverty wages, misery, and suffering. Conservatives see themselves comfortably between the two. Despite how often you hear the "temporarily embarrassed millionaires" line thrown around, it's more important for conservatives to feel like they are above someone else, rather than that they can ascend the social ladder themselves. It's easier for them to look down on someone than to put the work in to climb the ladder of their hierarchy.
That is, in part, why conservatives are inherently opposed to equality and equity - those challenge their beloved hierarchy and, more importantly, make them feel less certain about being above the people they hate.
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u/JWTS6 14d ago
Way too many leftists still think we can promise universal healthcare our way out of this, it's such a fundamental misunderstanding of what motivates MAGA voters
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u/rufud 14d ago
It’s a fundamental misunderstanding of what motivates young voters as well. Every dem nominee has promised to unleash the young voters since rock the vote on mtv but have barely moved the needle including Bernie/AOC. Obama came the closest but still young voters just do not care about healthcare even though they should. Because young people use healthcare the least and are most likely to be under their parents plan until 26 anyways. If you had to pick issues that young people actually respond to you are better off using gun violence and the environment but even then good luck because young people don’t care about voting
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u/Vyzantinist 13d ago edited 13d ago
Because a lot of liberals, whether through naivete or personal ethics, don't want to write off conservatives and see them as beyond helping. They think that with just one more persuasive argument or just one more piece of evidence conservatives can be reasoned with and made to see sense.
In a different context, it could be seen as admirable that such liberals are generally willing to give the worst people the benefit of the doubt, but this doesn't work with MAGA. They are a tribalistic death cult obsessed with power and dominance, who contemptuously mock liberals' willingness to "play fair" and by the rules while they themselves have no intention of doing so if it means they 'win'.
Ironically, perhaps, this might be the closest thing to the "suicidal empathy" conservatives sneeringly accuse liberals of having when the discussion comes to treating outgroups like actual human beings.
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u/mynamesyow19 14d ago
uh there are a LARGE number of conservatives that want all the government handouts they can get...corporate welfare, privatizing profits and socializing losses, bailouts, PPE loans, farmer bailouts, half of the South on Welfare and Medicaid/Medicare, etc...
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u/whichwitch9 14d ago
He said there would be relief 2 years ago. A fully Republican government didn't help for 2 years. If they haven't figured out he doesn't give af by now, they are beyond help
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u/one_pound_of_flesh 14d ago
Lots of people will still vote for him, and then be shocked when he abandons them. I ran out of pity for them. They don’t deserve help.
Let them receive the government they want. It’s the best punishment I can imagine for their stupidity.
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u/Comprehensive_Tie431 California 14d ago
They don't care. Fox News and their pastors told them the Democrats are communists so they will continue to vote Republican.
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u/ApplicationQuirky376 14d ago
Good news is WNC district is primed to go blue for the first time in a long time. The Bobert clone they are running to replace Edwards is a joke and Ager has been campaigning like crazy in the red part's of the district with success.
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u/justadudeinohio 14d ago edited 14d ago
dude. if you haven't figured it out yet these people have brain damage or like being abused.
edit: it's so fucking funny how defensive these people are about their shithole state with dogshit scam roads.
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u/Usual-Analysis-2990 14d ago
It's amazing how easily these so called "Don't Tread on Me!" types are intimidated by the perception of a 'strongman' type leader. Like, some of these folks were 'tea-party' people and they are terrified of going against Daddy Trump so hard. Cowards the lot of them.
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u/theorangecrush10 14d ago
But they did vote for Obama in 2008
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u/Efficient_Resist_287 14d ago
This was a fluke until the “white no matter what” NC political reasoning came back.
North Carolina could have been at the progressive forefront of US political integration of its former enslaved population during the Reconstruction era…but instead North Carolina chose Jim Crow. North Carolina was MAGA even before it was in style.
https://www.vox.com/2019/6/20/18693018/white-supremacists-overthrew-government-north-carolina
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u/KiteTales 14d ago
He is the worst leader this country has ever had.
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u/Choochoo1147 14d ago
And it’s not even close.
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u/sonnackrm 14d ago
Trump and his ilk never would’ve been elected if it wasn’t for Andrew Johnson.
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u/placeholder_user 14d ago edited 14d ago
The white terrorists who killed Emmett Till, or who flooded black towns, or who killed so many in the zoot suit riots, or who genocided the native Americans never faced justice for their crimes against humanity.
Nothing happened to the cops that beat Rodney King. I guess it's a bit better with Derek Chauvin and Sean Grayson facing real justice, but it's not even close to enough to bring any serious change.
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u/Evadrepus Illinois 13d ago
I disagree. The second worst President was the 45th. Millions of Americans died due to his failures and we're still dealing with his issues today.
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u/KantPaine Pennsylvania 14d ago
*President. He’s not a leader, he’s incapable of leading because he fundamentally lacks the right qualities. Silver spoon psychopath.
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u/boobzombie 14d ago
And yet, he was elected, TWICE.
Long after his piss-soaked grave has been forgotten, Americans will have some root causes to deal with.
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u/bluegrass_babe531 Kentucky 14d ago
hes the presidential equivalent of AI Slop
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u/trogdorkiller 14d ago
What's fucked up is he would 100% consider that a compliment.
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u/Knightoncloudwine 14d ago
There’s no one else that hates Americans more than Trump.
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u/punkindle 14d ago
impeachable offence. Every day is an impeachable offence.
And Congress is in recess because of cowards are afraid to do their jobs for even 1 day
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u/Aware_Cheesecake_519 America 14d ago
The idiot doesn't care about North Carolina.
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u/pconrad0 14d ago
He only cares about: * Staying out of jail * Increasing his personal wealth and power * Taking revenge on his perceived enemies
Everything he says and does fits into one or more of these three very specific categories.
"Preserving, protecting and defending" the Constitution, "faithfully executing the laws", never enters into it.
"Make America Great Again" has always had the understood fine print of "for Donald Trump, and to hell with the rest of you people".
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u/the_tanooki 14d ago
He also cares about children.
Specifically, he cares about raping them and killing them.
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u/Stereo_Jungle_Child 14d ago
What he DOES care about is starting a civil war so he can rescind the Constitution and become President for life.
It's like a corrupt cop taunting and goading a suspect into taking a swing at him so he can charge them with assaulting a police officer.
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u/canadiuman 14d ago
And for life will not be very long. Dude is 80 and not healthy. Like I don't get why he'd WANT to keep being the president.
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u/Ser_Artur_Dayne Virginia 14d ago
To stay out of prison and he’s made billions of dollars in just a few years. He also doesn’t even do the job of president, he’s lazy af and just works on vanity projects.
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u/tetanusmaster 14d ago
And he barely works on the vanity projects, too. All of them are a disaster. The WH is still partially torn down, the reflecting pool is still fucked up, the Kennedy Center is probably getting torn down, the arch hasn't started construction but it'll be right in the path of air traffic to the nearby airport once it's built, etc.
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u/exoFACTOR 14d ago
Which of the following would you choose?
1) Be arguably one of the most powerful people in the world, people bend over backwards to execute whatever you want to see happen, you make billions of dollars taking naps, having people praise you, and going golfing.
2) You go to jail for the rest of your life.
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u/canadiuman 14d ago
If he resigned today, there's no way he'd be in jail before he dies. It's his supervillain power - getting away with everything.
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u/Stereo_Jungle_Child 14d ago
It's his supervillain power - getting away with everything.
That's exactly right.
Trump's been doing this his entire life. He does whatever he wants and then dares people to try to stop him, then sues the shit out of everyone for everything if they actually try to. This tactic actually works if you have enough money to pull it off.
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u/Impossible-Bear-7350 14d ago
If his last moments on earth were seeing the entire world nuked, he’d be happy he went out on top.
He has no soul.
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u/Ferrocile 14d ago
He is incapable of caring for anyone but himself. He and his movement by extension are devoid of empathy. In his case, I believe he is literally incapable of caring though.
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u/Choochoo1147 14d ago
We could broaden that. The idiot doesn’t care about anything or anybody other than himself.
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u/mayorjinglejangle 14d ago
How is this even defensible
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u/Choochoo1147 14d ago
MAGA is evil and every Trump voter is evil. They only need to defend it to other evil people.
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u/dogs_gt_cats 14d ago
I grew up in the back woods of PA, in a small farming community. I used to go back every year and spend big just to support the big community fairs and moneymakers to bring a little cash to the community.
Over the past decade I've stopped going yearly, and more recently, going at all.
Everything is like some weird bizarro world version of itself. Everything is completely warped by hate and propaganda. Visiting gives me this horrible sense of anxiety and "wrong"-ness that I can't fully explain. People who used to be warm and welcoming are cold, callous, hateful bigots. Everything is the same, everything is completely different. The best I can use is an old folk term called "widdershins" which technically means going counterclockwise or going against the natural order, but also has a folk meaning associated with how you got to the other world where everything would feel wrong and ominous. It feels like that other world. Everything feels wrong. Everything feels hateful and evil.
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u/SpezDrinksHorseCum 14d ago
But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.
And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying ‘Jewish swine,’ collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.”
Milton Mayer
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u/boran_blok 13d ago
It is absolutely stunning how close MAGA resembles the NAZI movement. And at the same time extremely horrifying and dangerous, because we know what happened last time.
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u/trogdorkiller 14d ago
He's Trump. As long as he's breathing, the cult will accept any uttering of their god-king as divine and unimpeachable. And after he's breathing, they will try to rewrite history so that the next generation actually believes that.
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u/Prudent-Marsupial-42 14d ago
He claimed it was a joke which is all he has to do to give his supporters plausible deniability
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u/john_doe_jersey New Jersey 14d ago
North Carolinians should ask Blue States how much of a "joke" this really is.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/07/29/fema-democratic-disaster-requests-trump-01013938
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u/Bill_Brasky_SOB Ohio 14d ago
More:
Reluctance to do anything about COVID initially because it was 'primarily affecting Blue States'. He didn't get their votes, so he was willing to let them die.
Refusal to help California during its wildfires because he'll never get their electoral votes.
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u/Imadethosehitmanguns 14d ago
Because immediately after he said he was joking. Ha ha so funny. What a great thing to joke about Mr President
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u/audiate 14d ago
First it’s “I’ll pay you to vote for us.”
Now it’s “I’m going to hurt you if you don’t.”
It’s the most clear identification of an abuser possible.
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u/Successful_Fish1548 14d ago
As someone who grew up with a narcissistic parents, nothing Trump does surprises me in the least.
MAGA is basically just a large group of enablers, and they use the same excuses.
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u/punkindle 14d ago
comic book madman behavior. This is like, evil scientist has brainwashed the President. Except in our story, there are no heroes that will save us.
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u/FallOutShelterBoy New York 14d ago
Lex Luthor as president wasn’t this deranged!!
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u/VGAddict 14d ago
If you wrote a comic book villain that did the things Trump does daily, it would be lambasted for being too unrealistic and one-dimensional.
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u/AcademicPublius Colorado 14d ago
He's already been doing this. Plenty of relief not distributed to states that need it.
But there is no honor and no dignity in bending the knee to a loser, and he will continue to hurt you as long as you let him. Show him the door, North Carolina.
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u/Randomwhitelady2 14d ago
My favorite was when VERY red Western Maryland counties were denied flood relief a year or two ago. donald trump can’t wrap his tiny brain around the fact that only the large urban areas in Maryland are “blue”.
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u/snakebit1995 14d ago
Why would you ever vote for someone who literally tells you “I’m holding you hostage”
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u/MikeN22 14d ago
Wow, if that doesn’t do it for you as a North Carolina voter, just shred your voter registration
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u/PrivatePilot9 Canada 14d ago
They’ll still flock to vote full MAGA and then screech about how the lack of government support when their house is flattened by a hurricane on Biden.
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u/Everythings_Fucked North Carolina 14d ago
"I know Kamala would have been worse, but..." every single post.
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u/DFu4ever 14d ago
The fact that a single person votes for this giant piece of shit is mind blowing to me.
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u/kombatunit 14d ago
It really shouldn't be anymore. We are chock full of ignorant dimwits.
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u/TippyToeTigers 14d ago
Remember when they asked Biden why he is sending so much money in his infrastructure bill to red states and he said “because they need it”….feels like a lifetime ago
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u/GSDTippyTappies 13d ago
A POTUS who sends help to Americans in time of need after a disaster regardless of how they vote? Yes it's been forever I almost forgot what it's like to have an adult in charge.
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u/_Home_Skillet_ 14d ago
God what a broken human. No sense of duty or obligation, not a shred of empathy in his being. Just pure, transactional greed, selfishness and fear.
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u/jimibimi 14d ago
A president that is threatening citizens with pain and suffering.
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u/RedofPaw 14d ago
"Vote for me or I will make sure you suffer"
It's an interesting vote winning strategy. Let's see if it pans out.
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u/g_rich 14d ago
Regardless of which side you are on Trump is the only President who has denied disaster relief for political reasons. That alone should disqualify him from office and while a red state might think they are safe there are plenty of examples of him being petty with his supporters.
A city in North Carolina denying a data center from being built would be enough for him to deny hurricane relief to the whole state. This is a guy who would rather tear down the Kennedy Center just because his name can’t be on the side of it.
Vote blue in November, it’s the only way to get this country back on track. If everything Trump has done to date isn’t enough, which the GOP has willingly allowed and enabled; then the current gas prices and diesel prices along with shortages should be your tipping point. What we are seeing at the pump is 100% the result of actions by Trump and was entirely preventable.
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u/Leading_Atti2de 14d ago
“But he was literally just joking” - yeah, he was joking. How funny it is to dangle a life vest over a drowning persons head and pull it away a couple of times before you give it to them so they can live. Just for laughs. Haha
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u/Animalmotherrrr 14d ago
I love NC I’ve been living here for 4 years but they got some really dumb conservative diesel pushing cousin loving MAGA folk. You also have the boomers from Florida who have a cabin up in the woods also MAGA boot lickers. Asheville alone should vote 100% democratic. Trump won’t give NC a dime.
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u/pericles123 14d ago
And every Republican member of Congress that hasn't spoken out against this should be removed from their position
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u/AssignedCuteAtBirth 14d ago
If he was ever going to provide Hurricane relief, he would have started to do so before the flooding had even abated. Don't fall for the man's lies, North Carolina. He's already shown you who he is.
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u/Crafty_Ish1973 Texas 14d ago
I will never understand how anyone looks at this bloated orange traitor and sees strength or leadership.
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u/atticusfinch1973 14d ago
Your vote, or your life!
I wonder who that sounds like.
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u/Soupermans_dongle 14d ago
I live in Asheville. There are still unhoused people from the hurricane, still signs of damage everywhere, still closed roads, and the economy still hasn’t recovered.
If it’s any consolation, most people in Asheville hate Trump. Fuck him.
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u/dannytheguitarist 14d ago
"Sorry, but life saving benefits are transactional."
I hate this guy so fucking much.
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u/NotBestButPrettyGood 14d ago
Trump “what have you done for me lately?” North Carolina went for Donnie in 2024 and that’s not good enough anymore
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u/OpticalPrime35 14d ago
This is an actual terrorist threat toward millions of US citizens from the president of the united states
There is no word great enough to say how insane this is
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u/dancefan2019 14d ago
How terrible that Trump uses his power as president as a political weapon against its citizens. How he is allowed to get away with this is mind boggling to me.
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u/thesirensoftitans 14d ago
Terrorism is the calculated use of violence and fear to intimidate a population or coerce a government into meeting political, religious, or ideological goals.
Just FYI.
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u/SickViking America 14d ago
He is NOT joking! Do not forget he withheld wildfire support from California because too many Californians didn't vote for him. He denied flood relief to Maryland because it voted blue. He was serious then, he is serious now
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u/jest4fun 14d ago
My friends near Asheville will find his "joke" absolutely hilarious. Im sure of it. jfc.
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u/Silver-Forever9085 14d ago
You don’t negotiate with terrorists. Vote blue and get rid of this terrorist!
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u/Made_Human_Music 14d ago edited 14d ago
Of course he’s going to say it’s a joke. Forget that he’s literally doing this with blue states right now, he’s just kidding and he’s definitely not a deranged narcissistic pile of garbage
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u/TheBalzy Ohio 14d ago
Yeah, vote for congressional Democrats who actually believe in funding this stuff, and not presidential ego ballrooms.
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u/Extra-Ad5925 14d ago
Landed so badly in the crowd he had to walk it back live. And these are all red hat people
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u/DAVENP0RT American Expat 14d ago
Like how Mike Johnson refused recall Congress to fund relief efforts after Hurricane Helene?
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u/Beneficial-Couple-60 14d ago
I'm from Asheville, NC... and I speak for all Ashevilleans when I say... fuck this dude. Give us the help we still need today.
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u/Thin-Competition3018 14d ago
The more we remain in this tenure of the administration, the more tests Americans are provided.
And the question is simple, do you care about yourself and your well being, even if that well being is shared or do you care to injure others, even if you yourself are a casualty to that injury?
So far, the answers have been startling.
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u/Rude_Star9725 14d ago
First bribery, now black mail . Typical Trump behavior. But now he's too demented to be discreet about it.
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u/Gargravars_Shoes 14d ago
FEMA is broke. He stripped them of money in his first year. Even if the Carolinas voted favorably towards his interests, there’s no money. He’s already screwed the Carolinas (and everyone else).
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u/reformedMedas 14d ago
That final stroke/heart attack can't come sooner. Mob boss behaviour day in day out and just like with zombie Mitch his death might be left on a cliffhanger just like the Sopranos.
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u/LowAssistantInfinity 14d ago
Imagine being such a loser that you'd vote for this idiot because he threatened you and tried to bribe you. Have some fucking dignity.
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u/WafflePartyOrgy Washington 13d ago
Actually, that is exactly how he treats blue states—he's not joking NC, it's a threat. This is why if you actually care about things like freedom and individual liberty you need to ensure that Republicans lose every election from now to eternity.
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u/NullRazor 13d ago
Dump, for once, is absolutely right.
Relief depends on the outcome of the election.
Elect a Democrat, get Hurricane Relief.
Elect a Republican, get fucked more.
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u/VeeDubBug North Carolina 14d ago
Quiet, you filthy, rancid, spiteful, vengeful, narcissistic, fat pig. Eat my shorts.
He seems to have it out for my state. Guess he's really worried about Roy Cooper riding the blue wave into the senate.
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