r/politics • u/thedailybeast ✔ The Daily Beast • 29d ago
Possible Paywall Elon Musk Named in Bombshell Election Meddling Claim
https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musk-named-in-bombshell-election-meddling-claim-in-alex-gibney-documentary/8.1k
u/strongbob25 29d ago
Um he publicly meddled in the elections when he offered to pay people to vote on twitter and then he did it. It's a public record and people were calling it out in real time.
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u/hobbes_shot_second 28d ago
In multiple states.
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u/vitalvisionary Connecticut 28d ago
He got off in at least one state since he didn't pay anyone
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u/Demigeek 28d ago edited 28d ago
Didn't his lawyers argue in court that they didn't pay for votes because the "random winners" were planted in advance?
Edit for clarity: They preselected people who aligned with their message, and even though they advertised it as paying a random lottery for votes, told the court they were really paying for their services as spokespersons for their political views.
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u/eeyore134 28d ago
They argued that what he did wasn't a lottery, that it was fraud. Just enough to kick the can down the road, cheat Trump in, and make it all disappear.
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u/hedoeswhathewants 28d ago
Aside from the obvious ridiculousness of the argument, this is also like saying "sure, I told the hitman I'd pay him to kill that guy, but I never actually paid him the money so it's not murder, it's just fraud"
It's absolutely meddling to anyone with an ounce of common sense
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u/thefocusissharp 28d ago
Behold the wonders of Capitalism; a Nazi Trillionaire
Vote in the Midterms
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u/Boring_and_sons 28d ago
I know it won't make anyone feel better, but he's not a trillionaire anymore. Probably will be again in the near future though. I hate this timeline so much.
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u/Practical-Ball1437 28d ago
"When I asked the undercover cop to buy some drugs, I was actually using counterfeit money..."
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u/distorted_kiwi 28d ago
- You have to separate the criminal me from the regular me.
- when I said those words “I want ____”, It was for entertainment. Not to be taken literal.
- I didn’t steal anything, I said they were mine in my head before I left the store.
These are real arguments used by the administration. I’m sure there are a shit ton more examples.
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u/AvidCyclist250 28d ago
Didn't his lawyers argue in court that they didn't pay for votes because the "random winners" were planted in advance?
How dumb is that defence though. It's not what matters here. It's that voters believed they'd get the money or not?
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u/DrMobius0 28d ago
That's ridiculous. Reneging on his promise doesn't mean he didn't bribe people.
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u/vitalvisionary Connecticut 28d ago
If only we held people with power accountable
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u/Independent-Bug-9352 28d ago edited 28d ago
The bombshell are the bmb threats made in 7 out of 8 battleground states at over 50 Democratic-leaning polling stations (based on surrounding demographics) that the FBI confirmed originated from ruzzian ip addresses.
But never again a peep about this post election night.
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u/apple_kicks Foreign 28d ago
Not only that but data harvesting and using that to run fake ads that look like her campaign but on issues they knew people would avoid voting her on. So in one swing seat i remember reports said something like him and a company ran pro-Isreal ads in Muslim populated areas, pro Palestine ads to Jewish populated areas. Cambridge Analytica stuff
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u/US3_ME_ 28d ago edited 28d ago
God damn I hate these fuckers. Like seriously, how the fuck are you not content being rich? Usethat brain for wacky hobbies that don't include child raped and all that Epstein class stuff. Go build libraries full of just fuckin' train books or something. Jesus this timeline sucks so much ass. Glad psychedelics exist so I can at least enjoy pondering the thoughts of peace that will never be_
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u/GearOk7360 28d ago
Elon couldn't get an invite to Epstein island.
Even pedophiles think he's weird.
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u/AnAncientBog 28d ago
To be 100% clear, Musk asked for an invite AFTER (because) it was publicly revealed to be full of pedos raping children. That is specifically what he was responding to.
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u/Subietoy78 28d ago
they are BORED. having zero things you cant purchase and play with makes for a shit existence. humans at their best produce something. art, science, gives them a sense of purpose. when you take that away because you can literally just purchase anything you want and have it with no work, you need something else for that dopamine hit. theres no sense of accomplishment. so money accrual becomes their dopamine. that quickly runs out because it becomes its own machine you dont have to do anything with. so now you need something to work for or get something other people dont have. like sexual assault on children. when you cant get invited to that island because your that toxic, you start finding other groups to fuck with. those people have moved on to fucking whole countries for sport. im with this guy, shrooms are at least an escape from this hellscape the rich boys are foisting on us all. we are not far from that matt damon movie Elysium. rich twats in space station living it up while we fight to not die in the desert they leave us.
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u/KP_Neato_Dee 28d ago
having zero things you cant purchase and play with makes for a shit existence.
The dipshit even ruined video games for himself; he hires people to play them for him!
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u/Polantaris Illinois 28d ago
It's crazy because all of the things that give the rest of us satisfaction they cheat at and then wonder why they're bored with existence.
Gaming? Paid accounts.
Sciences? Pay someone else to figure it out.
Business? Pay your own company to increase your own stock.
They can't do shit legitimately but then do horrible things out of boredom.
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u/i_tyrant 28d ago
It's incredibly stupid and shortsighted and has definitely soured my opinion of anyone in that super rich 0.1% category. To me, they're all soulless bloodsucking ghouls because they all do shit like this, just not quite to Muskrat's excess.
And like you said, there's literally no need for it. Just their pathological want for number go up. EVERYONE at that level has so much money they can do whatever they want for the rest of their lives, but no, they gotta dip their greasy mitts in the cookie jar again and fuck it all up for the rest of us.
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u/Thurak0 28d ago
And nothing was done about it. So he will do it again and again.
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u/therossboss 28d ago
no you dont understand it was a public lottery, wait no, it was a sham because they only paid out to known friends of Elon, or what was it again? /s
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u/ZhaozhouCongshen 29d ago
"If he loses, I'm f—ed," Musk told Tucker Carlson of the Republican nominee in an interview broadcast on X.
"How long do you think my prison sentence is going to be?" the world's richest man quipped. "Will I see my children? I don't know."
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u/angrypooka 29d ago
He doesn’t see his kids now.
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u/Crunchberry24 29d ago
Not since he stopped needing that small one as a human shield.
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u/Dysc Louisiana 28d ago
Musk ended up with a black eye when Bessent clocked him right in the face, allegedly, during the early days of pretending to be a shadow president, so the kid wasn't doing his job. Plus Grimes was putting out an S.O.S. on twitter to help get Musk's attention to return her son. The human shield kid was more trouble than he was worth apparently.
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u/brickne3 American Expat 28d ago
"Return her son" makes it sound like he's a Blockbuster movie rental.
Which, to be fair, is probably how Elon sees him 🤣
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u/Dysc Louisiana 28d ago edited 28d ago
He named his kid "X" (and some nonsensical characters) which is a letter he is obsessed with. He cares more about the letter X than any of his children. I don't gamble, but if I did, this is a safe bet.
The only other person who may be as obsessed with the letter X as much as Musk is Count von Count from Sesame Street, who is a hand puppet.
Edit: It's probably for the best that his kids have an absentee father; rather than, getting ketamine fueled lessons from an obsessive compulsive man with a giga ego.
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u/HeadfulOfSugar 28d ago
Musk also started an online bank called X.com, before it merged with Cofinity to create PayPal, which he tried very hard to keep as X.com, & then X-PayPal. Executives kept pushing against him, because every focus group they ran it with reported that overwhelmingly people assumed it was a pornography adjacent site, but he would simply not let up. It genuinely played a small role in the boardroom coup that replaced him with Peter Thiel lmao. A decade later he fought to get the X.com trademark back & succeeded. Then he threw it into SpaceX, Twitter (X), X Corp., xAI, & his literal child, as well as a daughter they named Exa (her nickname is Y though?)
There’s also the Tesla Model X, which as part of the lineup appeared with the model S, 3, & Y (S3XY), because the model E was already patented. Dudes just a freak & I’m not unconvinced it’s genuinely porn related somehow lol
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u/DrunkTWrecks 28d ago
It’s because it’s real easy to turn an X into a swastika
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u/vandreulv 28d ago
You're not far off.
His father is a notorious white supremacist. Musk himself has shown those tendencies as well.
The Cybertruck design is directly lifted from the best scoring design of an old Apple II game for designing cars. He's a "geek" from the days of DOS where the characters usable were all within the ASCII table.
X is 88 in Decimal.
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u/RemoteBoner Tennessee 28d ago
Shown these tendencies? Homeboy literally
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u/AmericanDoughboy 28d ago
X.com came after Musk started a software company called Zip2. He did that while in the U.S. illegally. He was on a student visa, but didn’t enroll and started working. His visa did not allow him to do that.
Now, he complains about illegal aliens.
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u/Oprah_Pwnfrey 28d ago
FunInteresting Fact. X in ASCII code is 88 and there is no way the sieg heiling South African oligarch doesn't know that.→ More replies (3)27
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u/DuMbAsS_lOsEr_6_7 28d ago
A Blockbuster reference, we don't see many of those these days
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u/tekstical 28d ago
Plus he was going around dry snitching his dad out for stealing the election. And telling us Trump wasn't the real president(which duh, it's whoever the last person in his ear is the president).
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u/TimSylvester_ 28d ago
I thought that it was Miller who clocked him when he tried to bang Miller's wife.
But then again Miller'd probably be into watching.
And Musk's dick hasn't worked since he got it butchered in a failed enlargement surgery.
Was that before or after Musk had multiple other gender affirming surgeries and started taking hormones to better represent his preferred gender identity?
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u/Dysc Louisiana 28d ago
There was a speculation when Musk showed up as pretend shadow president in the Oval Office wearing his dark, gothic MAGA hat and sporting his black eye. Either way, the cover story that his tiny, five year-old son, X Æ A-Xii, hit Musk in the face while 'horsing' around fell very flat. Musk had not made a lot of friends in the admin and Bessent can't stand him according to reports. Musk supposedly insulted him over a "policy" argument and that set him off. Even Trump eventually kicked this annoying man to the curb.
All this took place after his botched penis surgery.
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u/RealHooman2187 28d ago
Miller strikes me as the kind of guy who would scratch and bite if he got into a fight and if that didn’t work would resort to pissing and shitting himself in order to gross out his opponent and “win”. I don’t think he has the balls to punch anyone. Much less a doughy Elon Musk.
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u/Militantpoet 28d ago
Lol it was such a strange stunt.
Like he never otherwise parades his kids around.
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u/Slaphappyfapman 28d ago
He was using him to soften the blow of him coming out as an all out fascist
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u/MrBigglesssworth 28d ago edited 28d ago
Remember when that kid told Trump to shut his mouth in the Oval?
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u/Paidorgy 28d ago edited 28d ago
Musk was absolutely telling his son that he was really the one pulling the strings.
If anything, it showed the world just how tumultuous the early days of Trumps presidency was, and how little true cohesion there was to any form of political governance.
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u/One-Pea-6947 28d ago
Jesus it feels like 5 years ago to me. Constant chaos and torture of this admin
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u/thisusedyet New Jersey 29d ago
He still has access to lil’ Kevlar, doesn’t he?
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u/Hoppers-Body-Double 28d ago
It's lil Meat Shield I believe.
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u/convicted_snob 28d ago
Poor attempt at good PR, but effective as a bullet sponge... Mini Musk now avaialable with talking shit to tRump in the Oval Office!
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u/Hoppers-Body-Double 28d ago
Order now and we'll throw in booger wiping at no charge!
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u/TheFeshy 28d ago
Elon's been naming his kids with weird symbols, so it's actually "🥩🛡️" but you got the pronunciation right.
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u/MadAstrid 28d ago edited 28d ago
Then Trump bragged that he would have lost Pennsylvania if Musk “with his knowledge of election computers” hadn’t fixed it for him, and Elon, cheeky monkey that he is, wore a “Tech Support” shirt to the White House as an acknowledgement of what he did. Media, owned by oligarchs including Musk himself, pretended that didn’t happen.
Then Musk stole the data of all American citizens for his own profit, had teenagers use AI to stop cancer trials, declared mission accomplished, and left, after becoming singularly responsible for the deaths of 700,00 to a million people, while actually costing tax payers more than he saved.
Plus, you know, whatever this article is about. Fake bribes to voters, I assume.
Republicans are so vile that they cannot get decent people to vote for them, so they cheat.
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u/DillBagner 28d ago
700,000 to a million so far. It's projected to be maybe 9.4 million or more people by 2030.
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u/Zmemestonk 28d ago
John Oliver went into this like a month ago. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him that pissed. The three highlighted stories are incredible
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u/CertainlyDusty 28d ago
Ki try to stay up with him. Do you know the date or the topic I could rewatch just to fire me up?
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u/SatinSaffron Washington 28d ago edited 28d ago
Plus, you know, whatever this article is about. Fake bribes to voters, I assume.
It's so much deeper than that and I hate how the article didn't do an actual deep dive into all of this. The quote you mentioned above is actually "Elon knows more about those vote counting computers than anybody and we won Pennsylvania by a landslide!"
Verifiable Fact: Elon and Epstein were looking for NSA-level mathematicians for wavelet analysis, it's in the Epstein files.
Verifiable Fact: The UPS power/backup systems the vote counting machines use is made by a company run by a die hard conservative. Those battery backups actually have a modem inside of them used to update firmware. That modem allows for a DTC/direct to cel connection (like to a starlink sattelite)
Verifiable Fact: Some election officials stole the source code of one of the voting machines and leaked it on the dark web, they went to prison for this. Leaking it on the dark web makes it hard to trace who they were trying to actually give the info to. Elon also hired a 19 year old who won a hacking competition
Verifiable Fact: Elon said the vote counting computers were too easy to hack
Here's a video of Trump saying they rigged the election and he won
Kait Justice did an AMAZING writeup about all of this on her substack. It's well worth the read if you have the time, and she brings receipts.
There's no fucking way Trump was the first person to win every single swing state in nearly half a century. There's no way 88 blue counties flipped to red, meanwhile 0 counties flipped the other way. There's no way counties in some of those swing states had up to 10% bullet ballots whereas the average is usually 1%-2% or so.
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u/MadAstrid 28d ago
I have not one issue with what you have written and in fact am in a situation where in some cases I did not need your sources to know what you wrote is true.
No one wants to hear it. No one wants to believe it.
I stick with the admissions that the traitors make publicly in hopes that people will actually care and start paying attention.
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u/SatinSaffron Washington 28d ago
No one wants to hear it. No one wants to believe it.
And you know on one hand I can kind of understand that. If you're just everyday John Doe going through life, not really up to date on politics, and someone presented all of this info to you then you would seem like a crazy conspiracy theorist. Hell there's tons of people in the comments of this post that are saying it's all a big conspiracy.
But like you said, they have openly admitted to it and bragged about it. Last year during their feud, Elon tweeted out that Trump would have lost the 2024 election without him. And we all know Elon's goofy ass campaign chainsaw dancing wasn't exactly tipping the scales in Trump's favor.
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u/MadAstrid 28d ago
I often interact with people younger than I am who are less fortunate than I am financially who roll their eyes at an older, financially comfortable white woman who is “all riled up” about politics.
I do all I can to help them understand that it is them, before me, that is getting screwed. That I have tax shelters that are intentionally kept from them. That if they don’t care, their bosses and landlords sure do and they aren’t voting in a way that benefits employees and tenants. That the fact that they haven’t gotten a raise in years, that they don’t have healthcare has a lot to do with them not being up to date in politics. That they can’t take a day off when they need has a lot to do with politics they claim that they don’t care about.
I tell them that the system benefits me, because it does. But if they are voting for trickle down economics and higher taxes for themselves, or not voting at all, it isn’t going to get them to where I am. They are going to have to start caring and paying attention.
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u/Neronafalus 28d ago edited 28d ago
Hey hey now, don't forget he ALSO forced closure or budget cuts of several government entities that were investigating him for various dubious shit he was up too.
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u/dylanx5150 28d ago
They weren't so much investing as they were investigating him.
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u/Stillwater215 29d ago
“Will I see my children? Or worse, will they require me to see them?”
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u/No-Cook-534 28d ago
Remember when he brought his shithead kid to a Tucker Carlson interview and the kid got on the mic and said "we quietly just do whatever we want. Hahaha!!" ? Wonder where he learned that.
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u/Forb1ddenKnowledge 29d ago
Put him in ADX.
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u/Walkingstardust Florida 29d ago
Gitmo would serve him better
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u/thisusedyet New Jersey 29d ago edited 28d ago
How about that
southCentral American hellhole ICE sent that Garcia guy to?Edit: Geography corrected
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u/Forb1ddenKnowledge 29d ago
Yes yes it would but adx is were they send people like El Chapo it's hell on earth it's like a prison you see in the movies and say that can't happen.
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u/Walkingstardust Florida 29d ago
ADX would be easier to stream video from his cell.
I'll allow it.
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u/Cosmic_Lust_Temple 28d ago
In a country where justice is bought, the reportedly richest person will never see meaningful punishment for anything in his life.
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u/Smokin_belladonna 28d ago
remember that like 2 months after trump kicked him out of the white house where his companies were bleeding value and he was like "this sucks..." before he promptly became the world's first trillionaire not long after?
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u/Cosmic_Lust_Temple 28d ago
Yeah. Turns out, all you have to do is have your companies just sell shit to each other. Kind of like the numbers that make up our economy are just five tech companies circle-jerking each other.
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u/jerfoo 28d ago
So, is this the true reason for DOGE? Do a snatch-n-grab on sensitive data (like tax returns and whatnot) to then use as leverage against those wanting accountability?
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u/endlesscartwheels Massachusetts 28d ago
They copied all the info from the Social Security databases. Musk and his assistants have that data and can share it with whomever they like. The media didn't seem to notice. That's all of our names, addresses, and Social Security numbers. Also, place of birth, ethnicity, race, parents' names, and whether your parents had Social Security numbers.
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u/graftthison 28d ago
Oh and there was DEFINATELY no third to set up backdoors and worms to retain their power in the future.
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u/sub_dee 28d ago
DOGE uploaded the entire social security database to a third party website and sent it to a GOP voter suppression group (most likely True The Vote). They admitted to it under oath as part of a court case, you can read the court transcript. It was reported in the mainstream media (I think Washington post, NYT) at the time.
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u/0202_tihssitidder 28d ago
I am somewhat happy that smart people saw the proof that the financial markets are rigged. r/wallstreetbets showed you all that. No risk, lots of bailouts, and connections get you protection.
I am somewhat happy that smart people saw the proof that the US Legal System is rigged. The wealthy are protected, but not bound by the law. No prison. Ever. No matter how awful the crime. Some exceptions based on skin color and gender. Some.
The entire US is a bad joke.
PS: There are only a couple million smart people. All the rest still think USA #1 wonderful.
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u/Fadedcamo 28d ago
Like try to think about it I challenge people. Try to honestly picture someone powerful going to prison. Like real actual prison. Imagine Elon musk being in court, in handcuffs, in an orange jumpsuit, in a tiny prison cell in a secure federal prison.
Its such an impossible image it strains credulity. Our brains shut down at the idea of it occuring over ANY crime. Nothing would be great enough for this reality to occur. Its insane that is the way it is for certain class of people.
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u/Mekisteus 28d ago
It can happen if they piss off enough other powerful people, like Bernie Madoff did. But that's the exception.
So other than powerful people who steal from more powerful people like Madoff, who is the most powerful person in recent US history who was busted for a crime, sentenced, and served time? Martha Stewart? If so that might be the upper limit of the reach of the "justice" system.
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u/TrulyOutrageous42 28d ago edited 28d ago
Likely Paul Manafort. Granted, he got pardoned, but he was busted, perp walked, convicted, sentenced, and served time before the pardon. We were so close to getting Roger Stone imprisoned after his fuckery with Nixon, his involvement in the Brooks Brothers Riot to unlawfully install Bush 2, and then he was set to go to prison after being convicted by a jury on witness tampering, obstruction, and false statements before being pardoned.
Stone then took that as a sense of immunity and engaged in a national-level conspiracy to defraud the United States through the false Electoral Vote scheme at the same time as organizing paramilitary presence in VA during the Jan 6th insurrection. He was specifically there with armed white supremacists in order to institute control if they succeeded or fight with violent force if anything tried to stop them. We're lucky MAGA is lazy as shit and gave up after a couple hours of roaming around the Capitol, and that PotUS et al were aiming for plausible deniability or else it would have been directed by them and succeeded.
People REALLY need to start putting all the pieces together, between 62 lawsuits with zero evidence (effectively contempt of court), calling Georgia to find votes, Pro V&V switching major code without reporting it, his and Musk's comments, Republican access to voting machines they should have been prosecuted for taking the data (code for how it works) from... it was a fucking coup, plain as day.
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u/StrangeContest4 28d ago
I honestly pictured tRump in that exact scenario after Jan 6th. The dice were cast, indictments were brought, raids took place, mugshots were taken. The evidence was irrefutable and the different cases would've slam dunks if they were given their time in in the courts... so I naively and mistakenly thought!
It is INSANE that it is the way it is for a certain Epstein class of people. Justice was always just a mirage, a fantasy, and a lie.
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u/JarJarJarMartin 28d ago
Ah yes, noted family man Elon Musk worries he won’t get to see his children.
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u/Thesegsyalt 28d ago
Trump literally thanked him for tampering with election results on camera.
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u/crimson117 America 28d ago
I can't believe no one ever followed up on that
Trump specifically mentioned "vote counting machines" and Elons expertise with them.
And this is after he basically stopped campaigning, and told people he doesn't need their votes, while Kamala was filling every rally with high energy crowds.
Then Trump magically won every swing state with a healthy margin.
There's no way he hasn't hacked the vote counting / tallying machines.
And the thing he can't hack is mail in votes, because there's an auditable paper trail, which caught him off guard in 2020. Which is why he's hellbent on suppressing mail in voting this midterm election.
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u/Zakuroenosakura 28d ago
I mean, there's an ongoing suit over the machines 45% of the country uses getting a mysteriously large update marked erroniously as minor like a week before the election that nobody has any logs pertaining to what it actually changed. Kind of wild the news hasn't been harping on that...
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u/Willtology 28d ago
Kind of wild the news hasn't been harping on that...
The same news that's 95% owned by a handful of conservative billionaires, several of whom openly praise Trump? Yeah.
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u/SpareElectronic3500 28d ago
Yeah people forgot very quickly how Trump bullied and silenced and shut out any news outlet that reported anything in opposition to him.
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u/_RetroBear 28d ago
I was trying to keep up with the suits for a while.... Most of them just... Gave up
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u/stilljustacatinacage 28d ago edited 28d ago
To combine my replies to both crimson117 above:
I can't believe no one ever followed up on that
And your...
Most of them just... Gave up
The thing I always come back to is, on January 6th, Boebert publicly announcing the whereabouts and movements of government officials to an actively hostile mob that was engaged in violence against security forces and was openly calling for the execution of government personnel.
People have been charged with treason for so much less, but when called in front of a committee under a Democrat President, all those involved just repeated "I don't recall," or "I don't remember," until everyone shrugged their shoulders and went, "oh well, we tried."
It should be pretty obvious by now between January 6th, the 2024 election, and Epstein that the US government is not interested in accountability, regardless of who's in charge.
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u/aerost0rm 28d ago
Well when the opposition can just keep appealing and has endless money, it is one of those give up type of situations. Trump showed this was the way that works
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u/tots4scott 28d ago
Can you give more context for those unaware?
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u/Zakuroenosakura 28d ago
Here is the initial suit from about a year ago about irregularities in a single county: https://www.newsweek.com/2024-election-results-lawsuit-documents-2091077
It came to light during discovery that the machines in question are used throughout the country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election_Systems_%26_Software
Having trouble finding more recent details, since election tampering attemps around midterms are clouding search results 🫠
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u/Sea-Initiative-3398 28d ago edited 28d ago
hell this quote on the article
Elon Musk appeared unusually certain about the outcome of the 2024 presidential election before the results came in, according to a new documentary.
The bombshell claim comes from the mother of one of Elon Musk’s (many) children, Ashley St. Clair, who alleged in a forthcoming documentary that the Tesla tycoon had a “degree of certainty” about the 2024 election results before they came in that “I had never seen before.”
“He had told me [before the election] he was going to unleash the ‘anomaly in the matrix,’ ” St. Clair says in championed documentarist Alex Gibney’s film, Musk, which was previewed by The Hollywood Reporter.
I knew of these statements already, from like a month or two ago? these were already public record, like in some streamer who got her on his podcast.
I'm getting kinda pissed that somehow these statements needed to be legitimized in a documantary for news outlets to pick up on it....
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u/colinjcole 28d ago
On the 2024 election night, Musk's young son, who was CLEARLY quoting something he heard an adult say, kept saying "they'll never know" during one of Musk's live interviews.
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u/red286 28d ago
Elon Musk appeared unusually certain about the outcome of the 2024 presidential election before the results came in, according to a new documentary.
What struck me as odd was when Tim Scott was asked on Meet the Press whether he would accept the results of the 2024 election if Harris won, said "this issue is not an issue, at the end of the day, the 47th president of the United States will be President Donald Trump".
He refused to accept that it was even a possibility that Trump would not win, despite the fact that Trump lost the 2020 election by the greatest margin in history, was credibly accused of numerous crimes against the state during and after his term, was convicted on 34 felony counts of fraud, and directed his supporters to literally attack the capitol on Jan 6th 2021. With all that going against them, for some reason literally everyone in Trump's orbit was 100% certain Trump would win, yet no one thought that was at all weird.
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u/makeoutwiththatmoose 28d ago
unleash the anomaly in the matrix
God he's such a fucking loser.
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u/CollegeMiddle6841 28d ago
Joe Rogan even said he was speaking to Musk on election night. Rogan was asking him why he was leaving many hours before the final vote was in.
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u/Ed_the_time_traveler 28d ago
The manlet Joe Rogan talked about it on his podcast shortly after the election.
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u/xeen313 28d ago
This is line with a statement I made a while back. Lots replies here how half country voted for him and it really got me thinking, did they? I dont know and the doubt keeps growing. This pretty much sums it up.
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u/dclaw504 28d ago
He went on Tucker Carlson's show with his mini bullet sponge and the kid was letting little bits out about him hacking from Starlink offices.
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u/SteakJones 28d ago
Exactly. He fucking admitted it and everyone was like “oh ok. Anyways”
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u/hipsterobot Oregon 29d ago
Great. Wake me up when there actual consequences
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u/IAmInTheBasement 29d ago
See you next century.
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u/TimeshareMachine 28d ago
I can only hope future generations know that when they see something named after someone by way of money, that that someone was probably just a rich, hoarding, cancerous ass.
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u/genericuser2000 29d ago
An optimist!
Consequences in the USA? Bwahahhahaha
Even funnier - it's basically confirmed that they meddled, if not stole temhe election and 340M Americans are literally totally Ok with it. Bwaahahhaha
Joke of a country
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u/littlehobbit1313 Maryland 28d ago
basically confirmed
I'd really like them to formally confirm it though. Actual definitive proof of election meddling is basically the only thing that can salvage our rep on the world stage at this point. Proof that we didn't actually elect him back into office is the only thing that'll get us even a smidge of forgiveness on the other side of all this.
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u/Leven 28d ago
The worlds richest rigged an election And now the politicians elected bring about fascism in the u.s. That's a consequence, just not the one we need.
So technically it has already happened. Oh, and he cut funding for the parts of the government that was investigating him and got away with it.
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u/soravique 28d ago
Exactly, allegations are one thing, but actual accountability is what matters. How about a reply that’s more sarcastic or more serious?
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u/B-Z_B-S Massachusetts 29d ago
Not really a surprise. Elon Musk has not been subtle with how he influenced social media to help Trump win in 2024 and how much money he spent to boost the GOP.
Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_activities_of_Elon_Musk
https://www.axios.com/2025/06/05/musk-trump-feud-2024-election-contributions
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u/SatinSaffron Washington 28d ago edited 28d ago
You need to also include a link to Kait's research on this topic as well. She already did a deep dive into this months and months ago but for some reason nobody has picked up on it.
"Elon knows those vote counting computers better than anybody and we won Pennsylvania in a landslide!" -Trump
https://kaitjustice.substack.com/p/how-america-detects-election-fraud-musk-epstein-files
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u/DreamLunatik 28d ago
Manipulated, not influenced.
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u/Ronin_Chimichanga 28d ago
I still want to know how he knew the result before anyone else announced it, and why his human meat shield said "bwa ha ha ha ha they'll never know what we did, they'll never know what we did bwa ha ha ha" in response to what it was like to go to work with his dad.
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u/Primary_Garbage6916 28d ago
88, you say? Surely that's a coincidence.
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u/digitalsmear 28d ago
WE are the ones in power.
WE are the ones who must hold the fire and pointy things.
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u/eeyore134 28d ago
The only county in Pennsylvania with numbers that made sense was also the only one that had to hand count their ballots due to a computer system issue. Trump won in my NC county despite everything else going pretty strongly blue. So many ballots with just his name on it and nothing else which never happens.
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u/PrometheusLiberatus 28d ago
A while back someone looked into one of Musk's guys and found he wrote a program for a hacking conference that did some stuff in a tabulator to people's votes. He's probably one of the main guys who did the dirty work Ethan Shaotran.
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u/35andDying 28d ago
Elmo also hired those DOGE Goons and one them entered a Hackathon and developed a voting app. Then the 2024 Election happened with a very peculiar outcome.
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u/Stunning-Pen-2412 28d ago
What really concerns me is nobody in the opposition is doing a thing about it. Why did Kamala completely capitulate without challenging election results that have clear abnormalities?
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u/dylhen 28d ago
Alt right timing was perfect, make stolen election claims for 4 years straight, basically making a circus out of the claim itself, then they get to do it because most of the country spent 4 years saying "the election wasn't stolen because it couldn't have been". I think it's a weird point of hubrus.
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u/Hillbilly_Boozer 28d ago
I mean, theres a ton of really sketchy election related shit for Musk. Between Trump's "he knows those election computers" and Musk's kid bragging about "they'll never know" to Tucker Carlson, there's a lot of questions left unanswered. He even tweeted about congressional seat numbers as well when him and Trump were fighting.
Without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dems would control the House and the Republicans would be 51-49 in the Senate.
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u/SatinSaffron Washington 28d ago
Elon and Epstein were actively looking for NSA-level mathematicians. The vote counting computers had a battery backup device that had a modem in it. This modem allowed for DTC/direct-to-cel connection with starlink satellites. The company that makes the battery backups is run by a die hard conservative. People went to prison for stealing the source code of voting machines.
This writeup lays it all out and comes with receipts for just about every single claim that's made in here. Those receipts are all public record, like emails found in the Epstein files or public arrest records. https://kaitjustice.substack.com/p/how-america-detects-election-fraud-musk-epstein-files
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u/esituism 28d ago
I've seen a lot of speculation about what happened, but never anything remotely close to how something couldve happened with the machines until this.
As a tech guy i've never been able to piece together how elon got access to federal systems run by the biden admin, but this looks a lot like a smoking gun.
this link needs to be it's own post, not a replied comment
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u/Sycophantic-Feline 28d ago
I'm not american but from where I'm standing it seems to me that anyone on that side of their political spectrum is immune to literally any consequences from anything
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u/Zardotab 28d ago
That's what happens when you can buy the top judges with a shiny RV.
S. Korea was able to boot their despot, why can't we? What ingredient do they have that USA is missing?
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u/JeffSteinMusic 29d ago
Daily Beast should be fined for every time they use the term “Bombshell” to describe something that 3% of Americans will even become aware of, much less result in any consequences.
Double that for mis-use of the words “Humiliated” “Embarrassed” and “Cornered” to describe Republicans.
And double that as well for any free-willed grown-ass adult out there who actually clicks on garbage like this. Daily Beast are in the click business and they wouldn’t peddle this catnip crap unless it sold.
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u/drmike0099 California 29d ago
They’re also publishing quotes from a month or two ago as “news”.
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u/xxwww 28d ago
lol journalism in 2026:
"The bombshell claim comes from the mother of one of Elon Musk’s (many) children, Ashley St. Clair, who alleged in a forthcoming documentary that the Tesla tycoon had a “degree of certainty” about the 2024 election results before they came in that “I had never seen before.”
wow who's that
Ashley St. Clair (born July 31, 1998) is an American influencer, author, and political commentator.\1])\2]) She was an outspoken proponent of conservative and anti-transgender politics until 2026, when she denounced her previous anti-trans activism. St. Clair was formerly in a relationship with Elon Musk, with whom she has a child.
oh ok
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u/bigspeen3436 28d ago
I don't know why they aren't a banned site in this sub. It's so annoying.
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u/Jh00 28d ago
I feel r/politics is not as interesting and reliable as a while ago mostly due to the excessive links to these clickbaity sites.
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u/SwordfishOk504 Canada 28d ago
I genuinely think there's some kickbacks the modteeam gets for allowing this shite site to constantly get posted here.
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u/GoForthandProsper1 29d ago
They are the absolute worst at sensationalized headlines
I wish I could filter them out site-wide
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u/AgathaClouseau 28d ago
Why is anyone acting like this is bombshell news? We’ve known about this shit for quite a while. St. Clair was out doing her rounds months ago.
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u/FaolanBaelfire 28d ago
We already knew he was interfering?
Someone actually do something jfc
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u/galt035 28d ago
Bombshell? He literally was offering money to people to vote..
Gtfo out of here with that surprised pikachu journalism..
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u/jeebus87 29d ago
It's not that no one is doing anything to call out these antics. It's that the individuals who should be doing something with the power they've been entrusted by the people are doing nothing about it.
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u/Dirty_Dishis 28d ago
His body shield, i mean his son even bragged about it "They'll never find out." During an interview on the elections, and Elon with his dipshit putty face smirk tried to play it off as his son just being a kid.
People are focusing purely on the 1 million dollar cash scheme and not on how all the battleground states magically came in trumps favor.
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u/Particular_Peacock 28d ago
Why is Trump allowing foreigners to interfere in our elections?
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u/Mikethebest78 29d ago
Oh well he is sure to see the consequences of his actions now
(he said sarcastically)
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u/rolfraikou 28d ago
I've been saying this election was stolen since it happened.
They claimed election meddling, over and over and over to make it so everyone would be afraid to actually question election integrity, but turns out, you can just steal it.
A guy who couldn't even fill up his own fucking rallies supposedly flipped areas red in record numbers, with none flipping blue? We're really supposed to believe that?
The history books are going to look at us accepting this and ask how the fuck we were so stupid.
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u/CrimsonHeretic 28d ago
We've known this for 2 years and he still hasn't faced any consequences.
The US is a shithole clown show country.
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u/Peakbrook 28d ago
When Elon and his son were being interviewed regarding the election his son said they had been quietly doing whatever they wanted followed by "They'll never know!" before laughing maniacally. I'm honestly shocked that didn't lead to anything because the boy obviously overheard things.
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u/krtyalor865 28d ago
The statistics are out there and I’ve seen the report. The vast number of anomalies that only presented in critical swing state districts, where there are observable spikes in the number of voters who voted Trump at top and Democrats down ballot.. it’s there for any upstanding justice dept to look at.
I’ve said it 100times and I’ll say it again.
It’s about to get so.damn.ugly. The amount of chaos and sensationalist news updates are going to absolutely blow up. The absolute bloodbath of prosecutions that is bound to ensue when the next Democrat president and Congress take control.. will make the Nuremberg Trials look like an episode of Judge Judy.
I only pray that the maximum amount of justice possible is achieved because there’s no amount of criminal convictions can truly account for the damage this whole Trump 2.0 presidency has caused the world and the country.
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u/Leaislala 28d ago
Oh, I hope you’re right! I have no faith that that will actually happen. Please let me be wrong
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u/fallenmonk Texas 28d ago
Elon was already named in a bombshell election meddling claim by Donald Trump, when he brought up Elon being good at the vote counting computers.
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u/That_90s_Kid_ 29d ago
Its like all of a sudden people woke up from a nap.
Alot of us already knew this.
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u/zeh_shah 28d ago
Crazy how we made passing out water bottles in 8 hour voting lines as something that falls under election interference but none of this shit Elon did was.
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u/FocusSlo Canada 28d ago
Yeah no surprise. Anyone who thinks Trump won the last election is insane.
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u/SpussyHitsDifferent 28d ago
Elon musk helped Donald Trump steal the 2024 election and he is an illegitimate president
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u/I_have_questions_ppl 28d ago
Is it a bombshell? We all knew already. He just gets away with it like all the other nonces.
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u/DJPho3nix 28d ago
St. Clair, for her part, has publicly denounced the hard right after years of championing its causes. Last month, during an appearance on The Daily Beast Podcast, she said a bitter custody battle she’s waging against Musk helped expose the broader right-wing political project as a “cult” that treats women poorly.
It always amazes me that these people claim there was no way to see all the things people were yelling the entire time.
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u/Yadahoom 28d ago
https://youtu.be/q7L38Bco3NQ?is=ftQATUzNQ91qlVUy
Always feel the need to post this whenever Musk's election interference gets brought up. Ignore the music and weird reaction slop, it's the only version I can still find that didn't get removed.
I always wonder what happened in Pennsylvania little X knows you aren't allowed to talk about or you get your mouth violently physically covered...
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u/abidriskell 28d ago
does no one remember elons angry thread of tweets openly admitting that since trump pissed him off he was he absolutely did rig the election 😭
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u/TheYoonz 28d ago
Yes, we know. We have known, and we always will have known even if he hadn't been named here. This isn't surprising.
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