Since dungeon monsters do not give any experience, as a new player, getting into dungeons with more veteran players who try to skip half the dungeon feels really bad. And, vice-versa, veterans taking in newbies who don't know how to jump around feels frustrating. I think Blizzard created a mess with nerfing dungeon exp so much and now the new player experience is horrible for dungeons.

I will make it quick...

Unique animations and quirks are amazing just like how undead palas got their own unique undead horse. It makes things feel more immersive and lets your character and race/class combo feel diffrent and special.

Just like Tryrande Whisperwind (TYRANDE MY LOVE!!!) Bow-wielding Priestess of Elune are much more in line lore wise than them using wands. Wands are more heavily associated with Highborne and Arcane magic.

Also Night Elves have one the best animation for using bows.

Basically make it a transmog for the wands like a simple white bow that fires the same projectile color as the wands and has the same effects. So no carrying arrows as they act as magic arrows.

I want to go back to a simpler time when we could only reach level 20.

Taken from the WoW forever podcast. How do yall feel about this decision?

I think everyone agree that the podcast is good, but I really think it marks a pivotol moment in their community engagement and even game design philosophy. They've talked about some of the more polarizing topics in a way that feels natural and not overly burdened by the restrictions of a corporate overlord. I also think the host, Josh, has done a really good job so far of steering the conversations.

I've had a lot of fun with Forever so far, but I'm also excited to see how they continue responding to feedback.

A new generation is gathering. They must be taught. They must learn what it was like to know fear. To think oneself safe in the bosom of Elwynn's eaves, when in truth one was only ever prey.

It’s a swamp now I guess…

... making 90% of the high order NPC's flesh toned, and 90% of the windshaper NPC's blue would fix a huge chunk of the faction flavor issues without having to change too much before launch or removing customization options. second image is to prove no AI was used.

This addon has gotten really popular, this is the reason why I'm making another thread on reddit, if mods feel like it's a repeat, feel free to take it down.

I would like to thank everyone for using it, it definitely takes time to keep it updated and find all the little bugs here and there, but it's fun.

First I want to say that the addon is constantly getting updated so it's normal that for the new patch it won't have visible working loot for the new dungeons and quests, so be patient as the community goes through the content.

I updated it vastly since the last time posting it, I just want to give a full update on what the addon is capable of now:

- Map tab is now available, you can see boss positions and various level of the maps, however, some maps are still to be refined, SFK is still a bit scuffed for example, but it's a complicated map. I will add a feature that will show where quest items are on the map as well.

-Added loads of languages: German, French, Spanish, Italian, Portoguese, Russian, Korean and Chinese

-Search bar at the top left where you can search any items or dungeons directly, and the ability to hide dungeons you dont wanna see in the main page.

-Route to ruins of lordaeron, only visible for alliance, and route to Halls of Thanes, only visible by horde.

-Added Trash loot only to dungeons that actually have unique meaningful loot, like DM, WC, SFK, some new stockade loot has been discovered too.

If you have any suggestions or find ANY bugs you can let me know here or on curseforge/discord: https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/dungeonjournal

This is one of my favourite spots in the game, I used to wait for my friends to play together while sitting on this chair, looking at the trees on the other side, with my bear pet next to me.

Now it's facing the other way for some reason. I sent a bug report but I guess the blizzard devs pay more attention to social media and reddit for feedback than the ingame bug reports or their own forums so here we are.

After watching the podcast, the dev team made it clear that hybrids will do respectable damage but less than pure damage dealing classes. Perfect, makes sense as hybrids have more utility tools traditionally like Innervate, windfury totem, etc.

There is currently a thread that has gained major traction on the wow forever beta forums covering Spriest issues and I wanted to bring light to it on reddit too: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/a-petition-to-blizzard-about-shadow-priest-design/2367686

As it stands, shadow priests will not be desired ever unless they bring top tier singletarget damage to the raid. Which they wont as stated in the dev podcast as they desire for all non-hybrid, pure dps classes to fill that role. Shadow Priest were a meme in classic, a true utility hybrid in tbc, and finally a true caster dps with utility and AoE in wrath. Many spriests were hoping Forever would do something unique with the spec, make it a utility like in tbc, or have it be a genuinely viable dps like in wrath and the popular opinion is that none of these have occured in the forever shadow priest design.

Core Issues:

They are competing for a spot against healing priests to provide priest buffs which is a battle for a raid spot shadow priest will not win.

ONLY caster with all valuable utility gone that was available in tbc and wrath. Our only utility left is party wide vampiric embrace which is the weakest version of it across era, SoD, tbc, and wotlk and also very often overlooked and not valued in a raid comp and deservedly so.

ONLY caster dps with no AoE as multidotting is tradionally weak dps and hurt even more by ramp up time.

Now, looking at other hybrid caster specs for comparison.

Balance Druid:
They have 3% crit to party, spammable AoE hurricane(cd was removed) that also reduces ALL mobs attack speeds by 20%, supercharged thorns via moonkin spellpower for tank, 2% chance for boss to miss attacks, an extra battle res, and an extra innervate. And now lets look at spriest, the worst version of vampiric embrace healing in recent memory ... and thats it.

Ele Shaman:

All totems support including windfury. 6 second cd fire nova AoE, magma totem aoe, and chain lightning for incredible cleave.

Possible Solutions

Return a valuable utility to the spec. The popular opinions are a mana battery function or a 5% spell damage increase to boss. Both are utilities that have been iconic to shadow priest in classic expansions

If Multidotting is the ideal shadow priest AoE playstyle, then support this playstyle. Add in talents for SPriest like resto druid got that reduce gcd time for the druids HoTs. This allows quicker spreading of DoTs to help ramp up issues. Shared Pain is another solution as this allows spreading multiple SWP's on the same global. A third option is the implementation of the iconic spell mindsear.

Remove the high threat modifier of mindblast as this is something tbc and onwards removed and it was the correct decision.

Fix talents. Improved fade is a talent that is never taken in any build and it has been this way since 2005. Also shadowweaving now only effects spriest currently in Forever so then make it be a buff to the spriest instead of debuff to target to help ramp up times. This was done in wrath and was a great change.

With these changes, Shadow priest could maintain its hybrid spec status while also being desirable to dungeons and raid environments.

Classic left, Forever right (SD and HD are the same animation)

This may seem small, but the little things like this made classic renowned for its high attention to detail and passion from the devs.

This is the same for running animations on some races.

I’ve posted multiple bug reports since day 1 of beta.

Please fix, Blizzard, I don’t want characters in game to be moonwalking around. Literally unplayable.

asking for a friend.

Just checked Hogger by myself, he has the regular classic model in Forever. Don't let idiots ragebait you with Dragonflight Beta screenshots...

This game fucking rules

For those that don’t know, Pre-Patch 1.4 in Vanilla WoW if you had the means you could have ended up being the illustrious owner of a mount (Ivory Raptor Pictured Above) that increased movement speed by 100%.

After Patch 1.4 these were made inaccessible and the more recognizable Armored Epic Mounts were introduced.

In WoW Forever, we could re-create a Statement Era, by allowing people to purchase the original Unarmored Epic Mounts for a limited time after launch to replicate the original limited availability, make them only available for 6 months and give this version of WoW a replication of a cool symbol for Early Epic Mount obtainers.

This is what hogger looks like on Wow Forever Beta with HD models enabled.

"Is there any wonder why the ogres are part of the Horde no longer?"

They used the example to where just Frostbolting on Lucifron is not good enough design, so they are aware that Mage specifically is suffering from not meeting the 3-4 button rotation spec goals.

For all of those saying Mages were dooming and that 'by design you're just a frostbolt and ice lance spammer now" seems that won't be the case.

Also from the devs: Icy Veins (And general cooldowns) does NOT count as part of the rotation, their philosophy is any cooldown greater than 10 seconds does not count as part of the rotation.