She beat the system.

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[u/Independent-Bat9545]

So are they gonna inject her again when the hospital deems her fit to take said medication? What are the next steps?

[u/exodusofficer → u/Independent-Bat9545]

She might not recover, they put killer doses of pentobarbitol into her. It didn't kill her outright, but she will have terrible chemical burns and tissue death, likely infection, and possibly organ failure or death by pneumonia in the near future.

[u/Troller122 → u/exodusofficer]

a bullet would have been kinder than letting her go through all this

[u/HiHaodi → u/Troller122]

Most countries who still have the death penalty use bullet squads or hanging. There is nothing you can do to make a death penalty “more humane”, in the end you are killing someone for the sake of it and it will always be ugly, even if you think the payoff is worth it

[u/Un4442nate → u/HiHaodi]

I once watched a documentary on capital punishment. In the end they suggested nitrogen hypoxia as it is painless, euphoric even apparently, but the family members of the victims were against them not suffering.

It was called How to Kill a Human Being, and was part of the Horizon BBC series, but I can't find it again.

[u/HiHaodi → u/Un4442nate]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn4dx72lwn7o

It might be a good way to go for those seeking euthanasia, but for people who still have a strong will to live, struggling against the mask for hours is still cruel. As I said, there’s no humane way to end someone’s life against their will. You may still wish to go forth with it for whatever reason but fundamentally it is going to be ugly.

[u/Flegking → u/HiHaodi]

A Fentanyl injection is pretty quick and also euphoric.

There may be no humane way to murder somebody, but there are certainly less cruel ways. Which makes it clear that cruelty is the point.

[u/Mysterious_Donut_702 → u/Flegking]

For better or worse, nobody's gonna have a hard time finding fent.

But IMO we should just skip the executions.

Most of them are botched. We're putting so much effort into making a literal killing "humane" ... and what do we have to show for it?

Decades of incarceration... all leading up to a comically expensive fuck-up disguised as a hospital ER visit... that probably involved more human suffering than the average public stoning.

[u/ORNGSPCEMNKY → u/HiHaodi]

You don’t struggle against anything, with nitrogen you get sleepy and drop out, they tested it on pigs, bin of apples flooded with nitrogen, pig munches away, inhales enough gas they lose consciousness and fall over, they start breathing room air again and wake up, and go right back to the bin of apples.

Thought being if it was unpleasant at all they wouldn’t go back.

Look up the documentary “how to kill a human being” it was on BBC back in like 2010 I think.

[u/SpoogyPickles → u/ORNGSPCEMNKY]

The FBI agent monitoring my search history seeing me type in "how to kill a human being."

[u/lehtomaeki → u/HiHaodi]

Lethal injections are kinder on the executioners rather than the victims. Thailand's last executioner is an interesting insight in to the mental toll being an executioner takes

[u/Greyik → u/lehtomaeki]

This is why firing squads are a thing.  The idea being they don't know if they had a bullet or a blank apparently goes a long way for their mental health.  

[u/worldsgreatestluver → u/Greyik]

They know. Bullets kick back a lot harder than blanks. They're just able to tell people they don't know.

[u/AngryCrustation → u/exodusofficer]

This is so much more humane than a guillotine.

Tbh lethal injection seems to put the target through a lot of pain to ensure that everyone watching doesn't think they are in pain. If they instead used some sort of high speed hydraulic press they could smash the head into pieces instantly rendering someone dead before they know it but that would look much more gruesome.

[u/exodusofficer → u/AngryCrustation]

What you want is a power hammer, not a hydraulic press

https://giphy.com/gifs/33F9BfC9ZOUoYH04zu

[u/AstralTurtle11 → u/exodusofficer]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Hyf7Jq841JazS

[u/Kitana37 → u/AngryCrustation]

Relevant story from The Onion

[u/rbollige → u/Independent-Bat9545]

Maybe they’ll reconsider the firing squad she had already requested.

[u/deathshank1937]

Why not just use fentanyl? Seems to be plenty of that around

[u/gadgetwalrus → u/deathshank1937]

She lobbied to be hung… bet the state wishes they’d done that now

[u/Guardian_of_Perineum → u/gadgetwalrus]

*hanged. Though she might very well be hung. I don't know for sure what's going on down there.

[u/CaicedoBrickWall → u/Guardian_of_Perineum]

Can confirm. Christa was HUNG

I still can't walk right

[u/Occams_AK47 → u/deathshank1937]

Pharmaceutical companies will go to great lengths to hide the dangers of their products. Being so closely associated with state sponsored killings isn't a good PR strategy.

[u/cjs81268]

[u/lolnaender → u/cjs81268]

The cameraman that recorded that deserves a raise. All time reaction gif.

[u/Used-Gas-6525 → u/lolnaender]

Their work will live on for years.

[u/Former-Lab-9451 → u/cjs81268]

https://giphy.com/gifs/yb3FUOXXpedSU

[u/-TheDerpinator-]

You don't survive lethal injections. The injections turn out to not be lethal.

[u/stook8 → u/-TheDerpinator-]

Survivable injections

[u/One-Mud-169 → u/stook8]

Injections

[u/MasterSpoon → u/One-Mud-169]

Cruel and unusual punishment

[u/Far-Fennel-3032 → u/-TheDerpinator-]

The problem is that pretty much almost every organisation and individual refuses to take part in preparing the lethal injections, as, funnily enough, it's actually broadly illegal to make pharmaceutical products with the intent of killing people.

So the government has to lie to whoever they are buying it from that it's for something else. So the government receives injections that are safe and won't kill anyone. But then the government needs to find people and convince them to make it lethal, but they also can't actually tell people to make it lethal, as pretty much anyone who knows what they are doing would lose their medical license if they did it. As funny enough compounding pharmacies are tightly regulated who would have guessed.

So these lethal injections have to be prepared by people who don't know what they are doing and have extremely low ethical standards to both practice compounding pharmacy without a license and do so to kill people. So you end up with non-lethal injections that have been successfully made idiot-proof, and the stooges are unable to make them lethal, so people survive all the time. So the whole thing is just a circus.

Keep in mind all the government would need to actually do is flood the room with N2, and people would peacefully pass in their sleep. But laws and regulations about stopping people from dying get in the way of people dying, funnily enough, forcing the government into the circus of lethal injections.

[u/FabulousVanilla9940 → u/Far-Fennel-3032]

No idea if anything you said is true but I choose to believe it.

Thats hilarious af.

[u/n3m0sum → u/FabulousVanilla9940]

It's broadly not true.

A huge range of legal pharmaceuticals become lethal with a significantly increased dose. I work in the industry. There's a reason anaesthesiology is a highly qualified and specialised field. Because just about every good anisthetic is lethal in the wrong dose.

The US government cannot get the drugs that need for effective lethal injections, because the international pharmaceutical industry. No longer wants the international PR nightmare of being seen to support and assist in the flawed capital punishment system, that we know kills innocent people. About 4-5% of people on death row are likely to be innocent.

So they have iron clad contracts with US government, that they will sell drugs to US government departments. But they can never be used in death penalty executions. Or heavy financial penalties will be due, and the company may just stop supplying all drugs to all US departments.

This is repeated among trained medical staff. Who what nothing to do with executions. Or may becomes unemployable if they did take part.

So prisons are getting creative with where they get drugs from, which drugs that are using, and who and how that are administered.

In 2022. Apparently ⅓ of lethal injections were botched. Autopsies have shown that up to 80 of people killed by lethal injections, shuwnsugbs show signs of pulmonary embolisms edema. They suffocated as fluid entered their lungs.

[u/Other_Sentence4495 → u/n3m0sum]

I know that some years ago that the US used to get the lethal injections from The Nederlands, but the Dutch government didn't wanted to provide anymore because they are agains the death penalty. I don't know if they are still providing them.

[u/n3m0sum → u/Other_Sentence4495]

They are not. More and more states are having to use local compounding pharmacies. Which limits the drugs available for use, and adds variability to the quality control.

I believe an investigative journalist found out one of compounding pharmacy Texas had been using. It was one that was close to losing it's state licence for being bad at making drugs accurately without contamination or adulteration. So they kept them open, so long as they made the execution drugs for them!

[u/Powrs1ave → u/n3m0sum]

shuwnsugbs...yeh thats the worst.

[u/MotherHorseFucker → u/Powrs1ave]

Show signs

[u/simpso84 → u/FabulousVanilla9940]

Its a crazy as... we have sentenced you to death.
Oh it didnt work. Quick give her life saving treatment.

[u/carolaMelo → u/simpso84]

And kill her as soon she recovered.

[u/Kenooman → u/carolaMelo]

Don't forget to bill them for the life saving treatment first. 

[u/Bumbymoo → u/Kenooman]

And the failed execution! Not covered by insurance. It's a medical treatment.

[u/Far-Fennel-3032 → u/FabulousVanilla9940]

John Oliver has a good segment on it. If you want more information. 

[u/suddenly-scrooge → u/Far-Fennel-3032]

How true is ‘survive all the time’? I understand it’s happened twice this year in TN but I also thought the process had been upended in recent years due to pharmaceutical restrictions so figured this was probably a result of a transition

[u/Xapheneon → u/suddenly-scrooge]

He is right in the sense that surviving the 'lethal' part of the injection is fairly common, but usually the side effects of the other parts kill you.

The cause pf death in a disturbingly high percentage is suffocation from the paralityc that they give them to stop spasms.

[u/Dull_Mycologist_8386 → u/Far-Fennel-3032]

What you've said isn't true. At all. The actual difficulty is that the cocktail of drugs approved for lethal injections is produced in Germany - who refuse to supply directly to the USA, because they disapprove of the death sentence.

So procurement is basically going around the world looking for countries that have bought individual drugs from Germany in abundance and offering to buy the surplus.

[u/CloudsAndSnow → u/Dull_Mycologist_8386]

Just a nitpick, but it's not Germany but the whole of the EU who have limited exports of those drugs (and related equipment) to the USA under the EU Anti-Torture Regulation

[u/alien4649 → u/Far-Fennel-3032]

How about a tiny bit of fentanyl?

[u/limegreenpaint → u/alien4649]

So I have a resistance to opioids that is legendary among my doctors. I got a port put in for treatment, and if the local hadn't worked, I would have felt everything. I asked the nurse if I'd gotten the meds, yet, and she panicked.

It was 3x the dose of fentanyl (150mcg) and Versed (12mg), because we'd planned on waking anesthesia. I did not expect to be completely lucid.

It's entirely possible that she has a similar resistance as a redhead.

(Edited to show doses- I forgot to include them.)

[u/blackjustin → u/limegreenpaint]

I was just about to ask if you were a ginger until I read that last line.
Shout out to the gingers

[u/tiorzol → u/limegreenpaint]

Damn. Ginger and you can't even get high. Life can be cruel. 

[u/insertwhittyusername → u/limegreenpaint]

By the end of the first sentence I knew what the last one was going to say. Had the same experience when I had my pacemaker put in.

Can you feel that? Yes. Dr Squeezes more juice. Wait 5 minutes. Can you feel that? Yes. Really? How your already at double. Squeezes more.

[u/Steak_Knight]

[u/Spreeg → u/Steak_Knight]

Looks like he had a hitlerectomy

[u/ComebackChemist → u/Spreeg]

He’s got nein lives

[u/Icecreamforge → u/[deleted]]

Why not shoot them up with a shitload of fentanyl?

[u/rmorrin → u/Icecreamforge]

Because we don't want them to have a good time before they die 

[u/qwase123 → u/Icecreamforge]

No pharmaceutical company wants to provide their drugs to kill people. I guess you could use whatever was seized in drug busts, but that would be unconstitutional, as it would qualify as cruel and unusual.

[u/Much-Instruction-807 → u/Icecreamforge]

Seems easy. Carfentanil is 100 times more potent than fentanyl. Someone could od with a few specks of dust from it.

[u/TONKAHANAH → u/[deleted]]

from what i've heard nothing about lethal injections is really painless, it just looks painless to save witnesses from having to to watch them writhe in agony as their blood is replaced with fire and they slowly slip into the void.

if we really wanted something quick and painless we'd go back to the firing squad.

[u/Jessir12 → u/TONKAHANAH]

It turns out that the person who designed the concoction for lethal injection was not exactly what you’d call an expert in the matter

[u/Mysterious_Deer273 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah - I’m a physician and my specialty’s body of leadership has an ethics statement that more or less frankly forbids our being involved in executions.

[u/Necessary-Reading605 → u/Mysterious_Deer273]

“Neither will I administer a poison to anybody when asked to do so, nor will I suggest such a course.”

[u/According-Dentist469 → u/[deleted]]

I have drowned, it's unpleasant

[u/T0m0king → u/According-Dentist469]

Good news is you aren't a witch

[u/ArtistWithoutArt → u/T0m0king]

https://giphy.com/gifs/mpxQs0MCqWJKo

[u/Professional_Fox9954]

It's ridiculous, given she survived I suspected she was given the States the 'new single drug' (pentobarbital) protocol - administered as a massive intravenous overdose (typically 5 grams or more), which is meant to cause central nervous system depression, respiratory arrest, and circulatory collapse.

BUT because most legit pharmacy or chemical manufacturers refuse to sell to prison service, they tend to rely on private producers who often provide subpar drug, then they store it for ages so what is already a wildly alkaline substance breaks down into wildly varying concentrations.

But in reality it's probably far more likely that they cannulated her badly - they're not anaesthetist or vascular access trained, they just stick a peripheral cannula in somewhere, tape it down and hide it under a sheet. Pentobarbital is thick and gelatinous - and it's being mechanically pushed, easily could burst the vein after some gets into system - hence the snoring but not massive electromechanical failure.

Downside is if the vein has blown, all that horrid goop is now going to extravastate into the surrounding tissue, where islts alkalinity will burn and cause massive tissue necrosis.

Terrible pain and definite form of cruel and unusual punishment.

[u/TheClimateDad → u/Professional_Fox9954]

According to her lawyers, you’re exactly right: here their quote:

"Tonight the State of Tennessee once again failed to carry out a lawful execution. We take no pleasure in being right, but the concerns raised by Ms. Pike proved to be true: difficult vein access, blown veins, degraded pentobarbital, no emergency medical care available when things inevitably go wrong, all under a protocol that remains veiled in secrecy.”

[u/GamerDadofAntiquity → u/TheClimateDad]

No emergency medical care is crazy… She could have died.

[u/Izacundo1 → u/GamerDadofAntiquity]

Yeah it seems ironic, but do we really want to be in a country where “slowly and agonizingly tortured to death” is the punishment for a crime?

[u/climate_anxiety_ → u/Professional_Fox9954]

Since she looks like a redhead i suspect it could also be a resistance to anesthetics

[u/Stylish_Duck → u/climate_anxiety_]

Is there any correlation between hair color and anesthetics resistance?

Edit: and if so, any plausible reason why?

[u/Durprie → u/Stylish_Duck]

Yes and redheads feel slightly less external pain such as cuts and bruises. In evolution there are a lot of random genes in a population that don’t go away unless it causes death/no reproduction so that’s my assumption but I could be wrong.

[u/mnid92 → u/Durprie]

I'm blonde and blue eyed but I have this gene. They struggle to put me under for surgery and I have woken up during them. I remember waking up during my gallbladder surgery, I couldn't feel anything but I remember laughing at something the surgeon said, it was along the lines of a dad joke, and he went "oh fuck, you aren't supposed to be laughing too!" and then a mask went over my face and I went back out.

[u/Pale_Winter_2755 → u/mnid92]

I’m a red head and this happened to me but I felt referred pain in my shoulder before they put the mask back on. Fucking terrifying

[u/Marky_Markus → u/Stylish_Duck]

Yes redheads typically require more anesthetic than your average person but if they are giving a massive dose it shouldn’t matter.

[u/ComfortableMuscle996 → u/Stylish_Duck]

Mutations in the MC1R gene which causes red hair are linked to resistance to general and local anaesthetic as well as differences in pain perception. I think can be a fairly high percentage difference for dosing

[u/Indiana_harris → u/Stylish_Duck]

Yes there’s a mutation (one of servers variations) that’s almost exclusively in Redheads that makes them unusually resistant to anaesthetics. 

You do get some blondes and brunettes who’s share this trait but they’re usually only a generation or so removed from a red-headed family member and the mutation isn’t passed on since that point.

Same with the mutation that limits their pain response or the one found in some blondes that causes rapid scarification (wounds and cuts close quicker and develop scar tissue at an accelerated rate but this also means smaller cuts that wouldn’t scar do rather than healing more cleanly and slowly). 

[u/PensiveKittyIsTired]

As a veterinarian, I really don’t understand this. When we do this with animals, it is pretty much always incredibly fast and absolutely efficient.

Why are there so many failures with prisoners?? This is not the first time.

What do these people do differently that it does not work???

Edited to add: I do not support the death penalty, am just asking about the mechanics of it, since this is insane.

[u/Gainin_on_her → u/PensiveKittyIsTired]

Because it isn’t doctors that do it. They generally don’t want to be involved.

I agree though. Just gas them with nitrogen, they get stoned, passed out and nighty-night. Not that I even support the death penalty.

[u/diduhearittoo → u/Gainin_on_her]

anybody with medical practice that swore to the oath can not use their knowledge to injure individuals.

Sorry, forgot reddit was filled with a bunch of arm chair xyz’s. the hippocratic oath is a symbolic oath. i can’t believe i have to word for word explain that competent doctors have probably sworn to some oath whether its parts of hippo or lasagna etc. and should they act unethical they have repercussions.

all that is besides my point of…

nobody that gives the injections is qualified for the role because the health professionals aren’t doing it. argue with a wall

[u/Chance-Click-3670 → u/diduhearittoo]

as a doctor, i can assure you that you don't need a medical degree to learn how to give an injection. like literally a couple hours seminar and then practicing for a week and you're totally good to go.

it's not like we were sitting there in med school spending weeks on 'how to give injections'. i literally think it was a day in like the first year, we did injections iv, im and sc, as well as drawing blood both venous and arterial blood gas, then we practiced on dolls and then each other and then we had lunch. then we got to do some here and there over the next few years on actual patients when the need arose and our 'mentor' or whatever you wanna call it let us do it.

[u/transynchro → u/Chance-Click-3670]

I mean, if an IV drug addict can figure it out, I’m sure anyone can.

[u/Chance-Click-3670 → u/transynchro]

hahaha exactly, literally the best argument one could make

[u/guacasloth64 → u/Gainin_on_her]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_of_Kenneth_Eugene_Smith  For better or worse, it seems like nitrogen hypoxia isn’t as straightforwardly “an easy death” as many assume. Maybe there’s a way not to botch it, but the fact that it can be botched is still a discredit. I also don’t support the death penalty, but if it does happen it should be done with a firing squad or Guillotine, since those are most likely to result in a quick death. Death penalty advocates probably won’t go for it because those methods don’t obfuscate the violence of the act in the same way lethal injection or the electric chair does.

[u/Incanzio → u/guacasloth64]

Your URL contains "For" which makes it error. Unsure if intentional due to sloth in username.

[u/roiki11 → u/guacasloth64]

That's because people usually don't want to die and panic when they know they're going to and try holding their breath. Which is what he did.

It's painless otherwise and if you don't know it's coming, you don't realize it at all.

People die every year when they walk into anoxic rooms and they don't realize it at all.

[u/BigBrrrrrrr22]

If this was the 1800s they’d SWEAR she was a witch or some shit

[u/Midnight_2B → u/BigBrrrrrrr22]

"Hey, so you survived and probably have witch powers. Believe it or not, that's another death sentence."

[u/BigBrrrrrrr22 → u/Midnight_2B]

a week later “high magistrate, it didn’t work, now what?”
“You’re not gonna fucking believe this”

[u/Midnight_2B → u/BigBrrrrrrr22]

"We have to be sure she really is a witch. Toss her in the lake, if she floats: witch. If she drowns: innocent."

[u/Shapesizes → u/Midnight_2B]

[u/Letsgetbettertoday → u/BigBrrrrrrr22]

I think she's a witch right now

[u/EveryAccount7729]

iocane powder. you sneak tiny ammount into prison and gradually increase the dose the whole time on death row

[u/embracethehatrix → u/EveryAccount7729]

https://giphy.com/gifs/JRF85A7Bcl2YU

[u/wetrysohard]

I'm not really for this penalty.... but given how often this fails and has complications...why don't they just do people in with propofol and an overdose of a narcotic?

[u/Thisisme4342 → u/wetrysohard]

Let's say that you make money off of selling a drug. You own the patent and it is associated with your company. Do you want it to be associated with actually killing people?

It's a sucky thing but you also 100% get where they're coming from.

Also even with those drugs it can make for a very ugly death. Another unfortunate thing is that while we still kill people we like it to be pretty. Unfortunately the human body has a lot of mechanisms to keep us alive, most of them look like we're desperately trying to stay alive because we are.

Nitrogen hypoxia is generally considered to be fairly euphoric, nitrogen is not copyrighted (for this moment at least) it was the go-to for Apollo Astronauts if things went tits up, and it generally ends with violent seizure like motions as the body starts shutting down.

She is recovering at a hospital for a reason. It is because we don't have the stomach to just brutally murder people. Killing people isn't that complicated, we figured out how to do that quite a while ago, killing them in a pretty way is.

I'm not a biologist, I'm an aerospace engineer and I'm pretty sure I could develop the "One ton slug of tungsten going Mach Jesus™" and all I need to do is do the calculations to make sure it's going faster than your nerves can fire and it hits in the relative vicinity of your head. Which in my industry we call Tuesday with a paid lunch.

I can probably do this for far cheaper in perpetuity than a single dose of these drugs, it would be 100% scientifically provable to be painless, but it wouldn't be very pretty.

[u/lurkynumber5 → u/wetrysohard]

99% because goverment and pharma can't agree on things.
Things like nurses can't set the IV, doctors cannot give the lethal injection.
Pharma not wanting to deliver the drugs to goverment not accepting X drug over Y drug.

The old guilotine and firing squad are much simpler, quick and 99% likely to actually do the job.
But then you get people to say it's barbaric?

So lethal injection with medication that should be administered 1 by 1 gets used in a single syringe.
By people that never set an IV, and thus miss the artery completely.

There are a few comments by actual nurses or veterinarian's that explain how those drugs are supposed to work when administered 1 by 1.
And why combining them into 1 injection is hindering the drugs effectiveness.

[u/joncabreraauthor]

Economy so bad, they even have to dilute the lethal injection to save money.

[u/Orbital_Vagabond]

Okay, first off, wtf is with the measurements behind her? There are two scales, they don't match and either could make sense. this looks like AI, and the little twitter logo doesn't help.

Second, somehow the prison systems have become such a fucking mess in the US they manage to repeatedly botch these "lethal injections". We've had this figured out for decades: just use barbiturates. okay, I was going for snark about the cocktails they use but this one WAS just pentobarbital. The same doctor managed to fuck up both this execution and another one earlier this year. This idiot apparently can't place a catheter.

[u/Auxryn → u/Orbital_Vagabond]

A proper doctor will refuse to be involved in a murder. Pharmaceutical companies refuse to sell drugs to executioners. She has a medical condition that makes it hard to get a good vein. Real clown show.

[u/pantsthereaper → u/Auxryn]

If they're going to do it, they should stop half-assing it. At the risk of sounding like one of "those guys", I don't support the death penalty, but I do believe that there should be no hesitation or chance of failure when the point is to kill someone. Fuck it up and you just cause suffering for no reason. Bring back headsmen or death by firing squad if you want to execute a person. If the concern is the guilt the executioner feels, good. Killing a person should never be clean or easy, regardless of their crimes.

[u/starthing76 → u/pantsthereaper]

She asked for death by firing squad or hanging because she was worried about this EXACT thing happening.

[u/subs_on_a_sailboat → u/Auxryn]

Maybe we should rethink a practice so barbaric that pharmaceutical companies refuse to participate.

[u/mkultron89 → u/subs_on_a_sailboat]

They refuse on the grounds that they will be banned from selling their drugs in any country outside of the USA. It also opens them up to charges in other countries.

[u/Sapper12D → u/subs_on_a_sailboat]

They only refuse cause theyll be black balled by other markets if they don't. They really dgaf.

[u/oldmanbelly]

Nobody is mentioning how she’s now THREE TIMES HER NORMAL SIZE.

[u/plimso13 → u/oldmanbelly]

I would have guessed she is exactly her size

[u/J-MRP → u/plimso13]

Big if true

[u/Freezerpill → u/oldmanbelly]

Wait, what do you mean?

[u/New_City_8745 → u/Freezerpill]

They injected her with fluid from a vat of toxic waste, she’s now 3 times her size and can shoot frickin’ laser beams.

[u/mvanvrancken → u/New_City_8745]

https://giphy.com/gifs/oagcrAZu2IvV0ijkiX

[u/NovocaineAU → u/New_City_8745]

We’re all fucked!

[u/nowaunderatedwaifngl → u/Freezerpill]

I think it's just some dumb thing Reddit is referencing.

[u/Ogamiitto33 → u/oldmanbelly]

https://giphy.com/gifs/U3awPon8sL0zqBw6b0

[u/Pink_Nyanko_Punch]

She's been microdosing on iocane powder.

[u/FlabbyLabby → u/Pink_Nyanko_Punch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/JRF85A7Bcl2YU

[u/BlueEyedSpiceJunkie]

She didn’t beat shit. Pentobarbital in that quantity carries a pretty solid chance of significant brain damage. They’re also not gonna let her go since they pushed the plunger and she’s still breathing.

[u/Narrrz]

They switched to homeopathy under RFK Jr.

[u/ApolloniusTyaneus → u/Narrrz]

Did they use four leaved clover and valerian instead of pentobarbitol? Or did they dilute the pentobarbitol 10.000x to make it more potent?

[u/kali005 → u/ApolloniusTyaneus]

The water remembers

[u/MedalReddit]

Ah, I see, the worst penalty of all: medical bills. She should've died when she had the chance.

[u/AvengingBlowfish]

Don’t tell me there’s a recall on lethal injections now…

[u/SockeyeSTI]

https://giphy.com/gifs/b6iVj3IM54Abm

[u/Puzzleheaded_Gene909]

https://giphy.com/gifs/b6iVj3IM54Abm

[u/PercentageNice7131]

As an ex drug user, why don't we just use a solid dose of fentanyl or carfent? I've OD six times and some of those times the amount it took to kill me was shockingly small to where you wouldn't believe it. They may even get a small bit of euphoria before they die. Besides that completely painless.

[u/Updated_Autopsy → u/PercentageNice7131]

There’s also decapitation. It’s more brutal, but it always works.

[u/DontLook_Weirdo]

Non-lethal Lethal Injections

Like a middle school rock band

[u/wannabe-myself]

She and two others lured a peer into the woods where she was then tortured and killed over her over jealousy for a boyfriend. Carved a Pentagram into her chest with a box knife while she still lived, then smashed her head with a chunk of concrete. She kept a piece of that girls skull and then showed it off.

She doesnt belong in society. That being said, this execution was fucked up. Still, very hard to feel empathetic or sympathetic for her.

[u/SuspiciousJuice5825]

I feel so bad for the mother of the victim.

What pike did was heinous.

[u/FaerieQuene]

She asked for a firing squad and was denied. In hindsight, wouldn’t that have been the better option?

[u/CreEngineer]

Wasn’t there a thing that they ran out of the „good stuff“ and now have to use a different cocktail for lethal injections?

[u/Ta-veren- → u/CreEngineer]

no, she has a medical issue that caused all this to happen, its nothing to do with the potency of the drug, just her rare disorder.

[u/RhodesArk]

Sorry, this is framed terribly. The State botched her execution and left her severely poisoned in the hospital. The State knew sodium pentathal had production issues & shortages for many years but ignored it. As a result, it tortured her cruelly.

Fuck this lady for what she did. But a botched execution is a miscarriage of justice

[u/strangewondermilk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/VL48WGMDjD64umCEkv

[u/Additional-Proof556 → u/strangewondermilk]

It's death sentence. Not death attempt sentence.

[u/ScottyMo1 → u/Additional-Proof556]

“I sentence you to Attempted Death Sentence”

[u/roos_de_baas]

Not even Death can fix her

[u/No_Deal_8837]

Since this is America,will she now have to pay the medical bill?

[u/MoodyBernoulli]

Imagine getting the lethal injection after waiting on death row all these years, then waking up in hospital.

You’d be so fucking confused.

[u/doubleshotofbland]

It's weird how often lethal doses seem to get messed up. Like, how does this happen?

The error only matters if it's an underdose so over-compensate to the overdose side seems obvious. Work out whatever the required amount is and then use 5x or 10x as much to be sure.

[u/crazy4finalfantasy → u/doubleshotofbland]

Why don't they just give them an OD of heroin? There's zero chance of it not working. And while the convulsing looks violent the person is already unconscious and not feeling any of it

[u/LeefAndorn → u/doubleshotofbland]

Because no medical company wants to sell an actually effective product used in lethal injections. Then whenever a dose is administered they try to use the minimum amount necessary so it doesn't make the death violent, except the dosage is almost always to little which causes the prisoner to be in immense pain and not die. How we ever tried to move past firing squads or electric chairs is baffling to me.

[u/BusinessLibrarian515 → u/LeefAndorn]

I don't understand why they don't just use fentanyl in an absurdly massive amount. Just strap em down, pump em full of it and wait a few minutes.

[u/EqualHito → u/BusinessLibrarian515]

Because the companies who make fentanyl don't want to be affiliated with making medicine that causes (legal) death.

[u/-RPH-]

Barbaric way to get rid of people, and (her) being on death row for so damn long.. And now it failed, so they'll do it again probably. Fucked up.

[u/nobodyperson]

Ketamine--->midazolam--->cyanide

why make it complicated?

[u/Jeramy_Jones]

Lethal injection is a horrifying way to die and usually administered with total incompetence.

I’d choose hanging, beheading or the firing squad over lethal injection any day.

[u/pixxelkick]

Reminder we have had an extremely effective and painless way to kill people smoothly and cheaply for ages.

Nitrogen is easy and simple, you just gas them with it and they fall asleep and just pass away.

All of these practices are not backed by a desire to remove an individual from society.

The desire is to inflict pain, suffering, and torture, at the spectacle of public.

Anyone who tries and argues in favor of it is part of the spectacle.

[u/ProfessionalPop2348]

She wouldn't survive a firing squad

[u/zulumoner]

What about the laser trap from the resident evil movie?

[u/PracticalDependent87]

Third world country shit.

[u/Specialist-Web-9216]

If she was sentenced to die, why let her recover??

[u/Biegzy4444 → u/Specialist-Web-9216]

I saw a news article about 7 years ago that stuck with me was death row inmate saved from suicide attempt or something along those lines

[u/TBdog → u/Biegzy4444]

There was another when someone on death row had a heart attack and had to be saved. He argued that he served his death sentence because he died. Interesting take.

[u/BambaZillah → u/TBdog]

https://giphy.com/gifs/lRZjlasctAcvu

[u/LazarusCrowley → u/Biegzy4444]

“You can’t kill other people and you can’t kill yourself, only the government can kill people, mmk?”

[u/emsesq → u/Specialist-Web-9216]

Constitution prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment. If the execution doesn’t work, the state must provide aid.

[u/Sunnyday1775 → u/emsesq]

Trying to kill her again would probably be an 8th amendment violation

[u/clayton-berg42 → u/emsesq]

I don't know why people need to have this explained to them. It's as if they want to see people tortured to death.

[u/RivendellAndChill → u/Specialist-Web-9216]

Because they're supposed to kill her, not torture her.

[u/Tiyugro → u/[deleted]]

A firing squad is still an 8th amendment violation. Really the biggest problem with lethal injections is that they still prioritize suffering. Fentanyl would be quick and painless and could easily be purchased for that use. But states that still carry out executions insist on using a painful and slow acting barbiturate instead. There's no reason to use a firing squad. Just use a strong opiate. But I guess that doesn't hurt enough and cause enough fear so it's a bad option, right? OR maybe we shouldn't have executions at all.

[u/_Phil_McCracken_ → u/Tiyugro]

Ethical and moral questions about the death penalty aside, they end up costing taxpayers more in the extensive appeals process than a life in a prison does. Factor in that the justice system wrongfully convicts people, the death penalty should be abolished. 

[u/Ultrafeet3 → u/Specialist-Web-9216]

https://giphy.com/gifs/11CNLlmNAQXIli

[u/Thin-Statistician341 → u/Specialist-Web-9216]

I believe it has something to do with the "no cruel and unusual punishment" clause. They have to cross their t's and dot their i's to not be sued by family or something. Messing this up is kind of insane though.

[u/CMoch41]

There’s a 30-06 at Walmart and a shelf full of ammo.

[u/Beardedshroom]

Her system beat the system

[u/Arachnidle]

Bullet is hard to beat

[u/AverageOhioUser69]

Why play around with this injection bullshit bring out the guillotine

[u/Beginning_Editor_524]

The guillotine was humane compared to this. 

[u/Dull-Cat-7777 → u/Beginning_Editor_524]

In America, we aren't truly using the most humane methods-we're using the methods that make us feel better about it. We don't see blood. Bodies are intact. Somehow we've convinced ourselves that the absence of blood means we're less barbaric.

[u/Bot1-The_Bot_Meanace → u/Beginning_Editor_524]

Regardless of your stance on death penalty, the methods used in the US are probably some of the worst ways of killing a human. I'd take the guillotine, hanging or even a firing squad over the electric chair or lethal injection any day. That shit is almost on par with crucification.

[u/RSAEN328]

She'd been building up an immunity knowing the executioner is a Sicilian.

[u/greatgreenthumb]

Hard to kill a redhead. They always need more anesthesia. Genetic resistance.

[u/Thylacine131]

For anyone wondering, she tortured a twenty year old girl in the woods behind their college for being too close to her boyfriend, carved a pentagram into her chest with a box cutter and bashed her skull in with a chunk of asphalt, a fragment of said skull she then kept as a trophy.

I’m not defending incompetence at execution, I’m just saying maybe she did something sufficiently heinous to warrant said execution.

[u/Beginning_Text3038]

John Oliver did an episode on lethal injection, it really sucks. A gun would be a better option due to all the issues we have with lethal injection.

[u/epicredditdude1]

I can’t believe I find out about this on a shitposting subreddit.

[u/UglyYinzer]

[u/BreezyMcWeasel]

I don't know why we don't use nitrogen

[u/idontkno23]

I was actually reading about this case the other day since the date was coming up, and she even appealed to the court that due to vein issues she knew it wouldn’t work and would cause this to happen, leading to cruel and unusual punishment. She actually requested a hanging instead, but Tennessee couldn’t provide it.

[u/teokun123]

Unlucky not double jeopardy.

[u/BoredSpartan117]

Is this a Jon snow situation? She survives the execution her watch is ended?

[u/CODMAN627]

We need to have a discussion about lethal injection being used as an execution method.

It’s meant to be more theatrical but clearly it’s not doing its job if it leads to these outcomes.

[u/PEPSIFOXTROT]

Death sentences really peaked at the guillotine. Quick, mostly painless and we can even automate the whole thing now, so nobody needs to worry about being the one to press the button

[u/Capable_Wait09]

Onion: “Death row inmate on life support”

[u/TheGalator]

Just shoot her in the head?

Like I am all against death sentence but of you do it maybe just make it quick. It is so easy to kill a human. Like even the guillotine would be less painful and easier than thia shit

[u/Wise-Seaweed8009]

Now they will give her the hospital bill, thats worse than death

[u/Todzilla78]

Imagine the mindfuck of waking up after you thought you were being out to death.

[u/jayphox]

Is nitrogen prohibited? Why complicate it

[u/Dagman11]

What a mindfuck for her when she woke up I bet.

[u/BGM1988]

First person who can tell how it feels..

[u/BaronGalactic → u/BGM1988]

I don't know the number of people who have survived attempts at lethal injection, but it's definitely a lot more than just her.

It's apparently an excruciating experience, and I can't believe states are still doing it.

[u/klemp0]

They tried to kill her with an injection. It didn't work so they drove her to the hospital so she doesn't die.

[u/ImpressiveAbroad7541]

Well she tortured and murdered her victim, so suffering before death not exactly a bad thing for her

[u/DarrReads]

More like a non-lethal injection

[u/SecretRecipe]

We just need to use captive bolt guns like they use in slaughter houses. they work super well